[Homeroast] Homeroast Digest, Vol 87, Issue 7

John M. Howison johnmhowison at gmail.com
Sun Apr 26 12:47:32 CDT 2015


All this talk about 15 minute roasts as something of a maximum intrigues
me.  What about 8 minutes as a minimum?  What am I losing, or risking, when
power main surges hurry my Fresh Roast procsss.  I like my eight minute
FR500 roasts, but maybe I have a dead nose.

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> It has been quiet. Maybe we need to start another argument about water or
> something...
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> --mike
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> >>It has been quiet. Maybe we need to start another argument about water or
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> We could talk about coffee.... I roasted a Brazilian this morning (don't
> know which one; it came as part of an 8-pound sampler, and it is at home)
> and right away about half an hour after roasting (I like to sample coffee
> at that point) it was very interesting. I took it to about city+ in about
> 14.5 minutes. I bought it in February, in case it helps to know that.
>
> Brian
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> On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Michael Koenig <koenig.mike at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > It has been quiet. Maybe we need to start another argument about water or
> > something...
> >
> > --mike
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> > > On Apr 25, 2015, at 3:39 PM, John Mac <johnt.mac at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > It's been pretty quite John, it's not you .
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> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 00:38:53 +0000
> From: John Nordling <john.nordling at gmail.com>
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> I did a pound of Rwandan today that smells amazing. I haven't brewed it
> yet. I want it to rest overnight.
>
> It is the first roast I've ever done from Rwanda. I went (I think) almost
> to 2nd. I had intended to go just until 2nd started, but first snuck up on
> me earlier than expected, and then things were getting too drawn out, so I
> started cooling earlier than 2nd.
>
> John
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 6:19 PM Brian Kamnetz <bkamnetz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > We could talk about coffee.... I roasted a Brazilian this morning (don't
> > know which one; it came as part of an 8-pound sampler, and it is at home)
> > and right away about half an hour after roasting (I like to sample coffee
> > at that point) it was very interesting. I took it to about city+ in about
> > 14.5 minutes. I bought it in February, in case it helps to know that.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Michael Koenig <koenig.mike at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It has been quiet. Maybe we need to start another argument about water
> or
> > > something...
> > >
> > > --mike
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Apr 25, 2015, at 3:39 PM, John Mac <johnt.mac at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's been pretty quite John, it's not you .
> > > >
> > > >> On Saturday, April 25, 2015, John M. Howison <
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 22:56:50 -0400
> From: Steve Jacobs <steve.jacobs at gmail.com>
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> The Rwandan Korongi Gitesi is fantastic, especially with a darker roast.
> When I do full pound batches with my 1600 plus, I usually let it get about
> 30 or so seconds into the second crack.
>
> On Saturday, April 25, 2015, John Nordling <john.nordling at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I did a pound of Rwandan today that smells amazing. I haven't brewed it
> > yet. I want it to rest overnight.
> >
> > It is the first roast I've ever done from Rwanda. I went (I think) almost
> > to 2nd. I had intended to go just until 2nd started, but first snuck up
> on
> > me earlier than expected, and then things were getting too drawn out, so
> I
> > started cooling earlier than 2nd.
> >
> > John
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 6:19 PM Brian Kamnetz <bkamnetz at gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > > We could talk about coffee.... I roasted a Brazilian this morning
> (don't
> > > know which one; it came as part of an 8-pound sampler, and it is at
> home)
> > > and right away about half an hour after roasting (I like to sample
> coffee
> > > at that point) it was very interesting. I took it to about city+ in
> about
> > > 14.5 minutes. I bought it in February, in case it helps to know that.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 5:53 PM, Michael Koenig <koenig.mike at gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > It has been quiet. Maybe we need to start another argument about
> water
> > or
> > > > something...
> > > >
> > > > --mike
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Apr 25, 2015, at 3:39 PM, John Mac <johnt.mac at gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It's been pretty quite John, it's not you .
> > > > >
> > > > >> On Saturday, April 25, 2015, John M. Howison <
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> > > > wrote:
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 05:46:19 -0700
> From: Brian Hoppler <brianhoppler at hotmail.com>
> To: sweet maria's <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] This list -> Mexico Chiapas Jaltenango
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> Last week I roasted some of the Mexico FTO Chiapas Jaltenango that
> recently arrived (20#'s).
> Very nice as either a City+  or a Full City roast and a 50/50 blend is
> commendable!
> Now that it is available on  Coffee Shrub I plan to order 50#'s to archive
> into my weekly country-go-round.  I had previously been acquainted with a
> Decaf Mexico Chiapas from Sweet Maria's for friends and family that
> appreciate that denatured bean type.  As with other SWP decaf beans, it
> roasts 10 to 20 % faster than unaltered ones.
>
> > Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2015 14:35:10 -0500
> > From: johnmhowison at gmail.com
> > To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 07:23:37 -0700
> From: Greg Hollrigel <ghollrigel at gmail.com>
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> >From over the years reading on the internets, I've developed the thought
> that roasts should be completed in 15 minutes or less.  Some have said that
> if beans roast longer it can lead to baking.  I don't always follow that
> with my roasts (e.g., I roasted 1 pound of Peruvian beans that took almost
> 20 minutes).  And I probably would have a hard time telling the difference
> (I just know either it's good or not good :-)).
>
> I have a Behmor 1600.  It seems the only times that I get a roast done in
> less than 15 minutes is if I roast 8 oz of beans at a time.  10 oz of beans
> gets to 15-17 minutes or so.  Usually, I'm on a P3 profile.
>
> So my question to the group, especially those that roast large amounts of
> beans at a time, do you still aim for this "less than 15 minute" goal when
> roast 1 pound, 5 pounds, or more?  Doesn't it get more difficult to get
> those larger roast batches to be done in the same amount of time as a
> smaller sample size?
>
> Thanks, and I'm just curious.
>
> Greg
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 10:33:41 -0400
> From: Steve Jacobs <steve.jacobs at gmail.com>
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> You have a bit more control over roasting times with smaller batches when
> using the behmor, but I'm happy with my roasts, even when I have stretch it
> out beyond 20 minutes. It's much easier to get the batch where I need it if
> I preheat the roaster a couple of minutes before each batch. One thing that
> greatly improved my roasts is upgrading my roaster with the Behmor 1600
> Plus controller.
>
> I hope to complete my gas grill roaster this spring and will theoretically
> be able to do five pound batches, but couldn't possibly use all that before
> it went stale. With the amount of smoke it'd generate, the neighbors are
> likely to kill me too.
>
> I've been wondering how hard it would be to create a smoke reduction system
> using a 10" duct fan, a range hood and a high flow carbon filter. That
> project is likely next in the queue after the arduino-based temperature
> controller for the gas grill roaster.
>
> Steve
>
> On Sunday, April 26, 2015, Greg Hollrigel <ghollrigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From over the years reading on the internets, I've developed the thought
> > that roasts should be completed in 15 minutes or less.  Some have said
> that
> > if beans roast longer it can lead to baking.  I don't always follow that
> > with my roasts (e.g., I roasted 1 pound of Peruvian beans that took
> almost
> > 20 minutes).  And I probably would have a hard time telling the
> difference
> > (I just know either it's good or not good :-)).
> >
> > I have a Behmor 1600.  It seems the only times that I get a roast done in
> > less than 15 minutes is if I roast 8 oz of beans at a time.  10 oz of
> beans
> > gets to 15-17 minutes or so.  Usually, I'm on a P3 profile.
> >
> > So my question to the group, especially those that roast large amounts of
> > beans at a time, do you still aim for this "less than 15 minute" goal
> when
> > roast 1 pound, 5 pounds, or more?  Doesn't it get more difficult to get
> > those larger roast batches to be done in the same amount of time as a
> > smaller sample size?
> >
> > Thanks, and I'm just curious.
> >
> > Greg
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
> >
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> > <a href="http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/">Sweet Maria's
> Forum</a>
> > <a href="http://www.sweetmarias.com/library">Our new Coffee Library</a>
> >
>
>
> --
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:54:53 -0500
> From: Ben Treichel <btreichel at gmail.com>
> To: Homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> Subject: [Homeroast] Gesha
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> I'm afraid I found the most recent lot of Gesha disappointing. If I
> remember right it was not esmerelda. I split 5 lbs with a roasting buddy of
> mine. It was great coffee, but couldn't find that unique high note that was
> always in it before. I've been buying it since Tom made it available;
> remember having to switch to the 'fly' crop because I thought it got to
> expensive (due to popular), but this year it was lacking special. Now you
> can all tell me I'm crazy. BTW put 3 separate roasts on it and couldn't
> find it. It always just popped out before, just like yirg does/did.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 08:56:29 -0700
> From: Barry Luterman <lutermanb at gmail.com>
> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Question on roast times
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> I roast with a Quest M3. The roaster has an insulating blanket added to the
> outside. This modification allows me to roast in my garage despite low
> ambient temperatures. The insulation also allows me to roast 300 grams at a
> time. That is, on 3 successive roasts i roast 2 lbs of coffee. my roasts
> take between 12 and 14 minutes. depending on the type of bean ,degree of
> roast and ambient temperature. Only very occasionally during the dead of
> winter may a roast approach 15 minutes.
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Steve Jacobs <steve.jacobs at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > You have a bit more control over roasting times with smaller batches when
> > using the behmor, but I'm happy with my roasts, even when I have stretch
> it
> > out beyond 20 minutes. It's much easier to get the batch where I need it
> if
> > I preheat the roaster a couple of minutes before each batch. One thing
> that
> > greatly improved my roasts is upgrading my roaster with the Behmor 1600
> > Plus controller.
> >
> > I hope to complete my gas grill roaster this spring and will
> theoretically
> > be able to do five pound batches, but couldn't possibly use all that
> before
> > it went stale. With the amount of smoke it'd generate, the neighbors are
> > likely to kill me too.
> >
> > I've been wondering how hard it would be to create a smoke reduction
> system
> > using a 10" duct fan, a range hood and a high flow carbon filter. That
> > project is likely next in the queue after the arduino-based temperature
> > controller for the gas grill roaster.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On Sunday, April 26, 2015, Greg Hollrigel <ghollrigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From over the years reading on the internets, I've developed the
> thought
> > > that roasts should be completed in 15 minutes or less.  Some have said
> > that
> > > if beans roast longer it can lead to baking.  I don't always follow
> that
> > > with my roasts (e.g., I roasted 1 pound of Peruvian beans that took
> > almost
> > > 20 minutes).  And I probably would have a hard time telling the
> > difference
> > > (I just know either it's good or not good :-)).
> > >
> > > I have a Behmor 1600.  It seems the only times that I get a roast done
> in
> > > less than 15 minutes is if I roast 8 oz of beans at a time.  10 oz of
> > beans
> > > gets to 15-17 minutes or so.  Usually, I'm on a P3 profile.
> > >
> > > So my question to the group, especially those that roast large amounts
> of
> > > beans at a time, do you still aim for this "less than 15 minute" goal
> > when
> > > roast 1 pound, 5 pounds, or more?  Doesn't it get more difficult to get
> > > those larger roast batches to be done in the same amount of time as a
> > > smaller sample size?
> > >
> > > Thanks, and I'm just curious.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > >
> > >
> >
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> > Forum</a>
> > > <a href="http://www.sweetmarias.com/library">Our new Coffee
> Library</a>
> > >
> >
> >
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>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 11:59:19 -0400
> From: Steve Jacobs <steve.jacobs at gmail.com>
> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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> There's nothing like freezing your butt off on a 10 degree winter night
> trying to get your bi-weekly roasts completed.
>
> On Sunday, April 26, 2015, Barry Luterman <lutermanb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I roast with a Quest M3. The roaster has an insulating blanket added to
> the
> > outside. This modification allows me to roast in my garage despite low
> > ambient temperatures. The insulation also allows me to roast 300 grams
> at a
> > time. That is, on 3 successive roasts i roast 2 lbs of coffee. my roasts
> > take between 12 and 14 minutes. depending on the type of bean ,degree of
> > roast and ambient temperature. Only very occasionally during the dead of
> > winter may a roast approach 15 minutes.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Steve Jacobs <steve.jacobs at gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > You have a bit more control over roasting times with smaller batches
> when
> > > using the behmor, but I'm happy with my roasts, even when I have
> stretch
> > it
> > > out beyond 20 minutes. It's much easier to get the batch where I need
> it
> > if
> > > I preheat the roaster a couple of minutes before each batch. One thing
> > that
> > > greatly improved my roasts is upgrading my roaster with the Behmor 1600
> > > Plus controller.
> > >
> > > I hope to complete my gas grill roaster this spring and will
> > theoretically
> > > be able to do five pound batches, but couldn't possibly use all that
> > before
> > > it went stale. With the amount of smoke it'd generate, the neighbors
> are
> > > likely to kill me too.
> > >
> > > I've been wondering how hard it would be to create a smoke reduction
> > system
> > > using a 10" duct fan, a range hood and a high flow carbon filter. That
> > > project is likely next in the queue after the arduino-based temperature
> > > controller for the gas grill roaster.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > On Sunday, April 26, 2015, Greg Hollrigel <ghollrigel at gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From over the years reading on the internets, I've developed the
> > thought
> > > > that roasts should be completed in 15 minutes or less.  Some have
> said
> > > that
> > > > if beans roast longer it can lead to baking.  I don't always follow
> > that
> > > > with my roasts (e.g., I roasted 1 pound of Peruvian beans that took
> > > almost
> > > > 20 minutes).  And I probably would have a hard time telling the
> > > difference
> > > > (I just know either it's good or not good :-)).
> > > >
> > > > I have a Behmor 1600.  It seems the only times that I get a roast
> done
> > in
> > > > less than 15 minutes is if I roast 8 oz of beans at a time.  10 oz of
> > > beans
> > > > gets to 15-17 minutes or so.  Usually, I'm on a P3 profile.
> > > >
> > > > So my question to the group, especially those that roast large
> amounts
> > of
> > > > beans at a time, do you still aim for this "less than 15 minute" goal
> > > when
> > > > roast 1 pound, 5 pounds, or more?  Doesn't it get more difficult to
> get
> > > > those larger roast batches to be done in the same amount of time as a
> > > > smaller sample size?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, and I'm just curious.
> > > >
> > > > Greg
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > Forum</a>
> > > > <a href="http://www.sweetmarias.com/library">Our new Coffee
> > Library</a>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 14
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:10:55 -0700
> From: Brian Hoppler <brianhoppler at hotmail.com>
> To: sweet maria's <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Question on roast times
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> The elements can seem severe when a 2.5 pound batch of beans takes 20
> minutes on my grill drum roaster during a rain or anywhere between 25 to
> 105?F!
>
> > Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 11:59:19 -0400
> > From: steve.jacobs at gmail.com
> > To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Question on roast times
> >
> > There's nothing like freezing your butt off on a 10 degree winter night
> > trying to get your bi-weekly roasts completed.
> >
> > On Sunday, April 26, 2015, Barry Luterman <lutermanb at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I roast with a Quest M3. The roaster has an insulating blanket added
> to the
> > > outside. This modification allows me to roast in my garage despite low
> > > ambient temperatures. The insulation also allows me to roast 300 grams
> at a
> > > time. That is, on 3 successive roasts i roast 2 lbs of coffee. my
> roasts
> > > take between 12 and 14 minutes. depending on the type of bean ,degree
> of
> > > roast and ambient temperature. Only very occasionally during the dead
> of
> > > winter may a roast approach 15 minutes.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:33 AM, Steve Jacobs <steve.jacobs at gmail.com
> > > <javascript:;>>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > You have a bit more control over roasting times with smaller batches
> when
> > > > using the behmor, but I'm happy with my roasts, even when I have
> stretch
> > > it
> > > > out beyond 20 minutes. It's much easier to get the batch where I
> need it
> > > if
> > > > I preheat the roaster a couple of minutes before each batch. One
> thing
> > > that
> > > > greatly improved my roasts is upgrading my roaster with the Behmor
> 1600
> > > > Plus controller.
> > > >
> > > > I hope to complete my gas grill roaster this spring and will
> > > theoretically
> > > > be able to do five pound batches, but couldn't possibly use all that
> > > before
> > > > it went stale. With the amount of smoke it'd generate, the neighbors
> are
> > > > likely to kill me too.
> > > >
> > > > I've been wondering how hard it would be to create a smoke reduction
> > > system
> > > > using a 10" duct fan, a range hood and a high flow carbon filter.
> That
> > > > project is likely next in the queue after the arduino-based
> temperature
> > > > controller for the gas grill roaster.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > On Sunday, April 26, 2015, Greg Hollrigel <ghollrigel at gmail.com
> > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From over the years reading on the internets, I've developed the
> > > thought
> > > > > that roasts should be completed in 15 minutes or less.  Some have
> said
> > > > that
> > > > > if beans roast longer it can lead to baking.  I don't always follow
> > > that
> > > > > with my roasts (e.g., I roasted 1 pound of Peruvian beans that took
> > > > almost
> > > > > 20 minutes).  And I probably would have a hard time telling the
> > > > difference
> > > > > (I just know either it's good or not good :-)).
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a Behmor 1600.  It seems the only times that I get a roast
> done
> > > in
> > > > > less than 15 minutes is if I roast 8 oz of beans at a time.  10 oz
> of
> > > > beans
> > > > > gets to 15-17 minutes or so.  Usually, I'm on a P3 profile.
> > > > >
> > > > > So my question to the group, especially those that roast large
> amounts
> > > of
> > > > > beans at a time, do you still aim for this "less than 15 minute"
> goal
> > > > when
> > > > > roast 1 pound, 5 pounds, or more?  Doesn't it get more difficult
> to get
> > > > > those larger roast batches to be done in the same amount of time
> as a
> > > > > smaller sample size?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, and I'm just curious.
> > > > >
> > > > > Greg
> > > > > _______________________________________________
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> <javascript:;>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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> > > > > <a href="http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/">Sweet Maria's
> > > > Forum</a>
> > > > > <a href="http://www.sweetmarias.com/library">Our new Coffee
> > > Library</a>
> > > > >
> > > >
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> Message: 15
> Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 09:24:26 -0700
> From: Howard B <howardbandy at gmail.com>
> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
>         list,   available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"
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> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Question on roast times
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> Hi Greg --
>
> I began roasting with a FreshRoast 500.  After about 800 roasts, the
> machine was beginning to show its age.  I bought a Behmor 1600 plus a few
> months ago.  My experience is similar to yours.
>
> I began with several 1/4 pound roasts, as suggested.  They all went well.
>
> My first 1 pound roasts did not complete in the 18 minutes initially
> provided, so I added 15 second increments and found that 20 to 21 minutes
> was required and I did not have quite the control I wanted.  After several
> experiments, I have settled on this, that works well for me for the
> Guatemalan and Ethiopian beans that make up the majority of my roasting:
>
> Begin with 330 grams of green beans.
> Settings: 1 pound, A, P1.
> Start, which sets the countdown clock to 18:00.
> Failsafe happens at 4:30.
> First bean to pop is usually at about 2:00.
> Tenth bean to pop, which I take as the start of first crack, is usually
> about 15 seconds later, so around 1:45.  Press C which resets the clock to
> 3:10.
> I roast fairly light -- usually allowing 1:30 to 1:40 to elapse before
> pressing Cool.  So that happens at 1:40 to 1:30 on the countdown clock.
> There is still a little popping going on when I press Cool.
> Resulting roasted weight is about 280 grams, which is 5 batches, each of 56
> grams, each one one-liter press pot batch of brewed coffee.
>
> I still use the FreshRoast, for which I have a digital thermometer and have
> better roast control, for decaf which I find roasts much more quickly.
>
> Best regards,
> Howard
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Greg Hollrigel <ghollrigel at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From over the years reading on the internets, I've developed the thought
> > that roasts should be completed in 15 minutes or less.  Some have said
> that
> > if beans roast longer it can lead to baking.  I don't always follow that
> > with my roasts (e.g., I roasted 1 pound of Peruvian beans that took
> almost
> > 20 minutes).  And I probably would have a hard time telling the
> difference
> > (I just know either it's good or not good :-)).
> >
> > I have a Behmor 1600.  It seems the only times that I get a roast done in
> > less than 15 minutes is if I roast 8 oz of beans at a time.  10 oz of
> beans
> > gets to 15-17 minutes or so.  Usually, I'm on a P3 profile.
> >
> > So my question to the group, especially those that roast large amounts of
> > beans at a time, do you still aim for this "less than 15 minute" goal
> when
> > roast 1 pound, 5 pounds, or more?  Doesn't it get more difficult to get
> > those larger roast batches to be done in the same amount of time as a
> > smaller sample size?
> >
> > Thanks, and I'm just curious.
> >
> > Greg
> > _______________________________________________
> > Homeroast mailing list
> > Homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> >
> >
> http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast_lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > <a href="http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/">Sweet Maria's
> Forum</a>
> > <a href="http://www.sweetmarias.com/library">Our new Coffee Library</a>
> >
>
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