[Homeroast] Homeroast Digest, Vol 77, Issue 13

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>    1. Article on automated system of coffee roasting based on   crack
>       sounds (David Rossell)
>    2. Re: Article on automated system of coffee roasting based on
>       crack sounds (Ben Treichel)
>    3. Re: Article on automated system of coffee roasting based on
>       crack sounds (Barry Luterman)
>    4. Re: Article on automated system of coffee roasting based on
>       crack sounds (David Rossell)
>    5. Re: Article on automated system of coffee roasting based on
>       crack sounds (Ben Treichel)
>    6. Re: Article on automated system of coffee roasting based on
>       crack sounds (David Rossell)
>    7. Re: Article on automated system of coffee roasting based on
>       crack sounds (Ben Treichel)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:15:38 -0400
> From: David Rossell <davidjohnrossell at gmail.com>
> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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> Subject: [Homeroast] Article on automated system of coffee roasting
>         based on        crack sounds
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> http://scitation.aip.org/content/asa/journal/jasa/135/6/10.1121/1.4874355
>
> Why that would be better than a thermometer to measure bean temperature,
> I'm not sure . . .
>
> David
>
> --
> David Rossell
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 08:26:31 -0500
> From: Ben Treichel <J.W.Bullfrog at gmail.com>
> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Article on automated system of coffee
>         roasting based on crack sounds
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> Different purpose, since at best we measure the temp of the bean mass, and
> at worst the input air temp, The sound of the crack indicates a roasting
> event, which is not necessarily temp dependent; time and time is a better
> indicator.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:15 AM, David Rossell <davidjohnrossell at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> >
> http://scitation.aip.org/content/asa/journal/jasa/135/6/10.1121/1.4874355
> >
> > Why that would be better than a thermometer to measure bean temperature,
> > I'm not sure . . .
> >
> > David
> >
> > --
> > David Rossell
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 07:34:43 -0700
> From: Barry Luterman <lutermanb at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Article on automated system of coffee
>         roasting based on crack sounds
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> Yes or to put it another way. You are measuring the actual event (crack)
> rather than a measure of a related event (temp) and then inferring about
> the evem from the measurement.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Ben Treichel <J.W.Bullfrog at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Different purpose, since at best we measure the temp of the bean mass,
> and
> > at worst the input air temp, The sound of the crack indicates a roasting
> > event, which is not necessarily temp dependent; time and time is a better
> > indicator.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:15 AM, David Rossell <
> davidjohnrossell at gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> http://scitation.aip.org/content/asa/journal/jasa/135/6/10.1121/1.4874355
> > >
> > > Why that would be better than a thermometer to measure bean
> temperature,
> > > I'm not sure . . .
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > --
> > > David Rossell
> > > _______________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:36:43 -0400
> From: David Rossell <davidjohnrossell at gmail.com>
> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
>         list,   available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"
>         <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Article on automated system of coffee
>         roasting based on crack sounds
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> But some beans barely make a cracking sound at all, and others are quite
> pronounced.  I swear, sometimes in the Behmor, it's not so much a crack as
> a phht sound.  : )
>
> Could be a tough engineering problem!
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Barry Luterman <lutermanb at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes or to put it another way. You are measuring the actual event (crack)
> > rather than a measure of a related event (temp) and then inferring about
> > the evem from the measurement.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Ben Treichel <J.W.Bullfrog at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Different purpose, since at best we measure the temp of the bean mass,
> > and
> > > at worst the input air temp, The sound of the crack indicates a
> roasting
> > > event, which is not necessarily temp dependent; time and time is a
> better
> > > indicator.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:15 AM, David Rossell <
> > davidjohnrossell at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://scitation.aip.org/content/asa/journal/jasa/135/6/10.1121/1.4874355
> > > >
> > > > Why that would be better than a thermometer to measure bean
> > temperature,
> > > > I'm not sure . . .
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > David Rossell
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > Library</a>
> > > >
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> > >
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>
>
>
> --
> David Rossell
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 09:53:40 -0500
> From: Ben Treichel <J.W.Bullfrog at gmail.com>
> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
>         list,   available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"
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> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Article on automated system of coffee
>         roasting based on crack sounds
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> It is. btw, I'm an engineer.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:36 AM, David Rossell <davidjohnrossell at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > But some beans barely make a cracking sound at all, and others are quite
> > pronounced.  I swear, sometimes in the Behmor, it's not so much a crack
> as
> > a phht sound.  : )
> >
> > Could be a tough engineering problem!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Barry Luterman <lutermanb at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes or to put it another way. You are measuring the actual event
> (crack)
> > > rather than a measure of a related event (temp) and then inferring
> about
> > > the evem from the measurement.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Ben Treichel <J.W.Bullfrog at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Different purpose, since at best we measure the temp of the bean
> mass,
> > > and
> > > > at worst the input air temp, The sound of the crack indicates a
> > roasting
> > > > event, which is not necessarily temp dependent; time and time is a
> > better
> > > > indicator.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:15 AM, David Rossell <
> > > davidjohnrossell at gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://scitation.aip.org/content/asa/journal/jasa/135/6/10.1121/1.4874355
> > > > >
> > > > > Why that would be better than a thermometer to measure bean
> > > temperature,
> > > > > I'm not sure . . .
> > > > >
> > > > > David
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > David Rossell
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Homeroast mailing list
> > > > > Homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast_lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > > > > <a href="http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/">Sweet Maria's
> > > > Forum</a>
> > > > > <a href="http://www.sweetmarias.com/library">Our new Coffee
> > > Library</a>
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Homeroast mailing list
> > > > Homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast_lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > > > <a href="http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/">Sweet Maria's
> > > Forum</a>
> > > > <a href="http://www.sweetmarias.com/library">Our new Coffee
> > Library</a>
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Homeroast mailing list
> > > Homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > >
> > >
> >
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> > > <a href="http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/">Sweet Maria's
> > Forum</a>
> > > <a href="http://www.sweetmarias.com/library">Our new Coffee
> Library</a>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > David Rossell
> > _______________________________________________
> > Homeroast mailing list
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> >
> >
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> Forum</a>
> > <a href="http://www.sweetmarias.com/library">Our new Coffee Library</a>
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 10:56:09 -0400
> From: David Rossell <davidjohnrossell at gmail.com>
> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
>         list,   available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"
>         <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Article on automated system of coffee
>         roasting based on crack sounds
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>
> There are some interesting parallels to automated speech recognition as
> well.  Think about different types of cracks being different dialects of a
> language.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Ben Treichel <J.W.Bullfrog at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > It is. btw, I'm an engineer.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:36 AM, David Rossell <
> davidjohnrossell at gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > But some beans barely make a cracking sound at all, and others are
> quite
> > > pronounced.  I swear, sometimes in the Behmor, it's not so much a crack
> > as
> > > a phht sound.  : )
> > >
> > > Could be a tough engineering problem!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Barry Luterman <lutermanb at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes or to put it another way. You are measuring the actual event
> > (crack)
> > > > rather than a measure of a related event (temp) and then inferring
> > about
> > > > the evem from the measurement.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Ben Treichel <
> J.W.Bullfrog at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Different purpose, since at best we measure the temp of the bean
> > mass,
> > > > and
> > > > > at worst the input air temp, The sound of the crack indicates a
> > > roasting
> > > > > event, which is not necessarily temp dependent; time and time is a
> > > better
> > > > > indicator.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:15 AM, David Rossell <
> > > > davidjohnrossell at gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://scitation.aip.org/content/asa/journal/jasa/135/6/10.1121/1.4874355
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why that would be better than a thermometer to measure bean
> > > > temperature,
> > > > > > I'm not sure . . .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > David Rossell
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Homeroast mailing list
> > > > > > Homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > > > > <a href="http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/">Sweet Maria's
> > > > > Forum</a>
> > > > > > <a href="http://www.sweetmarias.com/library">Our new Coffee
> > > > Library</a>
> > > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Homeroast mailing list
> > > > > Homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast_lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > > > > <a href="http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/">Sweet Maria's
> > > > Forum</a>
> > > > > <a href="http://www.sweetmarias.com/library">Our new Coffee
> > > Library</a>
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Homeroast mailing list
> > > > Homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast_lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > > > <a href="http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/">Sweet Maria's
> > > Forum</a>
> > > > <a href="http://www.sweetmarias.com/library">Our new Coffee
> > Library</a>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > David Rossell
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Homeroast mailing list
> > > Homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast_lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > > <a href="http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/">Sweet Maria's
> > Forum</a>
> > > <a href="http://www.sweetmarias.com/library">Our new Coffee
> Library</a>
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Homeroast mailing list
> > Homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> >
> >
> http://lists.sweetmariascoffee.com/mailman/listinfo/homeroast_lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > <a href="http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/">Sweet Maria's
> Forum</a>
> > <a href="http://www.sweetmarias.com/library">Our new Coffee Library</a>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> David Rossell
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:34:53 -0500
> From: Ben Treichel <J.W.Bullfrog at gmail.com>
> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
>         list,   available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"
>         <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Article on automated system of coffee
>         roasting based on crack sounds
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>
> Yep, humans(normally) can tell the difference between the sound of a 1st,
> or 2nd crack.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:56 AM, David Rossell <davidjohnrossell at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > There are some interesting parallels to automated speech recognition as
> > well.  Think about different types of cracks being different dialects of
> a
> > language.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Ben Treichel <J.W.Bullfrog at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It is. btw, I'm an engineer.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:36 AM, David Rossell <
> > davidjohnrossell at gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > But some beans barely make a cracking sound at all, and others are
> > quite
> > > > pronounced.  I swear, sometimes in the Behmor, it's not so much a
> crack
> > > as
> > > > a phht sound.  : )
> > > >
> > > > Could be a tough engineering problem!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Barry Luterman <
> lutermanb at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yes or to put it another way. You are measuring the actual event
> > > (crack)
> > > > > rather than a measure of a related event (temp) and then inferring
> > > about
> > > > > the evem from the measurement.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Ben Treichel <
> > J.W.Bullfrog at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Different purpose, since at best we measure the temp of the bean
> > > mass,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > at worst the input air temp, The sound of the crack indicates a
> > > > roasting
> > > > > > event, which is not necessarily temp dependent; time and time is
> a
> > > > better
> > > > > > indicator.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:15 AM, David Rossell <
> > > > > davidjohnrossell at gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://scitation.aip.org/content/asa/journal/jasa/135/6/10.1121/1.4874355
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why that would be better than a thermometer to measure bean
> > > > > temperature,
> > > > > > > I'm not sure . . .
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > David
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > David Rossell
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > Homeroast mailing list
> > > > > > > Homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
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