[Homeroast] test

Joe Preiser coffeedrinker at jpreiser.com
Wed Apr 30 20:39:13 CDT 2014

Be aware that AOL (yes, they still do exist) has recently implemented the same thing Yahoo did.  It has been playing havoc with several mailing lists I’m on.  Thankfully, I was not the list maintainer or system administrator so didn’t have to resolve it or see all of the bounced messages.  Most of the lists have resolved the issue by rewriting the From: address so Yahoo, AOL, and perhaps Google if they go the same route as the other two don’t have issues.

One list I know of is using Lsoft Listserv software which has a method of rewriting the From: line while preserving a method to reply directly to the sender.  I don’t know what list software is being used here but am passing the info along in case the admins are looking for solutions.

On Apr 30, 2014, at 19:58, Martin Maney <maney at two14.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 05:29:39PM -0700, Andy Thomas wrote:
>> Thanks, Frank and Bonnie for verifying that I exist. I'm still not
>> seeing my own posts, even though I have chosen that option in my List
>> Settings.  Oh, Well....
> It may be related to recent changes at Yahoo and the way they handle
> email checks.  This article talks about one problem, though I don't
> think this is quite the same thing:
> http://www.virusbtn.com/blog/2014/04_15.xml
> This mailing list doesn't change the From: address, and so I guess
> Yahoo sees the email from you coming back with that From: address, not
> from one of Yahoo's servers, and assumes it's a spammer forging their
> domain and *poof* it's gone.
>    Others say that leaving the From: address unchanged, while
>    modifying subject and body, simply isn't desirable any more in
>    today's email landscape.  Indeed, this is what Yahoo said in
>    defence of its policy.
> The times, they are a-changing.  And if the list maitainers are poking
> around at that, maybe they could get rid of the absurd "this list has
> rules" yadda yadda that's attached to the Reply-To?  It's unsightly
> and, I dare say, likely unhygenic as well.  :-/
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