[Homeroast] Homeroast Digest, Vol 75, Issue 7

Bob Glasscock bobglass at centurytel.net
Fri Apr 11 14:25:48 CDT 2014


Mike,
Thanks for the insight...Still, I believe the consumer is better 
educated as to what a quality coffee is, thereby driving the demand for 
producers to deliver a more refined product. As for me, years of 
consuming everything from Folgers to Taster's Choice has conditioned my 
palate to be more insensitive to nuances in different roasts, so the 
past few years of trying to be a proficient roaster has made me better 
appreciate that there ARE differences from one bean to another, but I'm 
still not able to discriminate different characteristics...kind of like 
abstract expressionism...I'm not always sure I know what the artist is 
doing, but I like it anyway...that said, I will never go back to 
Folgers or Taster's Choice willingly... 

Bob Glasscock
Point Clear, Alabama

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>    1. WSJ Report (Bob Glasscock)
>    2. Re: WSJ Report (miKe mcKoffee)
>    3. Re: Quest (John Monteleone)
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> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 22:37:13 -0400
> From: "Bob Glasscock" <bobglass at centurytel.net>
> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> Subject: [Homeroast] WSJ Report
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> Yesterday's Wall Street Journal had an article on the coffee trade that
> basically asserted that consumers are increasingly demanding when it comes to
> the quality of coffee in their cups. Futures prices are up to nearly $2/lb.,
> caused in part by Brazil's drought. Sweet Maria's Tom Owen was quoted in the
> article, which hinted that coffee importers are not well protected 
> against poor
> quality, by asserting that at SM, "...if the quality's not there, the 
> coffee is
> worth zero." Just thought the SM community would be very proud of 
> Tom's being a
> good spokesperson as well as an outstanding supplier. 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 20:36:14 -0700
> From: "miKe mcKoffee" <mckona at comcast.net>
> To: "'A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for
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> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] WSJ Report
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> FWIW the C Market is actually down from a peak of over $3/lb back in 2011
> when it starting back down hitting an extreme low edging around $1/lb early
> Fall 2013 (well below farmer sustainability) before the pendulum began
> rapidly swinging back up closing today $2.061, up 30c since just Monday!
> Which BTW was down from over $2 a couple weeks ago. Makes making purchases
> professionally a challenge to say the least. 
>
> What the article was mainly discussing was the lack of quality checks and
> balances and recourse when an importer or roaster direct buys a future crop
> from a farmer/co-op etc and/or sample doesn't match delivered shipment. For
> instance a pre-purchase sample might cup a great 92 and shipment arrive
> cupping 87 or worse, what then? No easy answers... 
>
> Slave to the Bean miKe mcKoffee
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> URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:
> http://www.mckoffee.com/
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> Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
> first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal enlightenment
> found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone before. 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Bob Glasscock
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 7:37 PM
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> Subject: [Homeroast] WSJ Report
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> Yesterday's Wall Street Journal had an article on the coffee trade that
> basically asserted that consumers are increasingly demanding when it comes
> to the quality of coffee in their cups. Futures prices are up to nearly
> $2/lb., caused in part by Brazil's drought. Sweet Maria's Tom Owen was
> quoted in the article, which hinted that coffee importers are not well
> protected against poor quality, by asserting that at SM, "...if the
> quality's not there, the coffee is worth zero." Just thought the SM
> community would be very proud of Tom's being a good spokesperson as well as
> an outstanding supplier. 
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>
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>  Bob Glasscock
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 01:10:08 -0700
> From: John Monteleone <johnmonteleone at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Quest
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> Hi there
>
> I've taken the plunge.  I purchased a Quest today and will pick it up
> tomorrow.  I would love any advice on my first roasts.  Also, would you
> recommend any additional instruments for the machine like a thermocouple. 
>
> Thanks
> John
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:16 AM, Jeff Bensen <jbensen-0007 at xemaps.com>wrote:
>
> > John -
> >
> > I've been a home roaster for nine years and the owner of a Quest for the
> > past three. Personally I love the machine, but you need to be aware of some
> > things before you decide. 
> >
> > It is _completely_ manual and, other than a circuit breaker, has no
> > protection devices at all. You cannot walk away from it in operation. 
> >
> > Being completely manual was both a blessing and a temporary curse for me. 
> > It does allow you to create nearly any profile you desire within the
> > thermal capabilities of the machine. But during my first six months or so I
> > was not able to turn out a roast as good as I was getting on the
> > instrumented iRoast I had used for years. It was like learning how to roast
> > all over again. Once I got a feel for it, however, my roasts slowly
> > improved until they became better than anything I had been able to achieve
> > before. YMMV. 
> >
> > Depending upon if and how you decide to instrument it you may be able to
> > roughly compare roast curves with others. I'd be happy to share any example
> > curves I have, and can offer suggestions for thermocouples and associated
> > instrumentation if you decide to go that route. 
> >
> > -- Jeff Bensen
> >    Palm Bay, FL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 02:43 AM 1/9/2014, John Monteleone wrote:
> >
> >  I have been considering purchasing a Quest to further my coffee roasting
> >> obsession.  I have been using Behmor for a few years and I'm ready to take
> >> the next step.  I was recently told by someone in the community that the
> >> Quest was not really meant for home roasters.  They felt that it was more
> >> for professionals who need a sample roaster.   Can anyone comment on that. 
> >>  If I did get it, are there sample roast curves out there to help someone
> >> new to a Quest.  Thanks for your help. 
> >>
> >> John
> >>
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