[Homeroast] Distilled H2O

Robert Yoder robotyonder at hotmail.com
Tue Jun 11 00:58:32 CDT 2013

That's what we get in our Melting Pot Society, Alchemist!  Some of our folks are Pre-Melted for our convenience.
Happy Roasting,
robert yoder
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:08:41 -0700
> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> From: john at chocolatealchemy.com
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Distilled H2O
> GAHHHH - I thought I gave up...but now I really do.  No really.  It's 
> just not worth the effort to try and educate someone of blatantly 
> wrongs statements when they have a closed mind.
> Enjoy your distilled water coffee.
> John
> At 01:16 PM 6/10/2013, you wrote:
> >On 6/10/2013 10:00 AM, homeroast-request at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com wrote:
> >>From: John Nanci <john at chocolatealchemy.com>
> >>
> >>"all that benzine (sic)"  I just have to ask, all what benzene?  In
> >>15 years analyzing for benzene, I never found it once in water that
> >>was not a ground monitoring well (and not used for drinking).  As for
> >>what organics, usually those refer to THM's and HAA's - both
> >>disinfection by products of chlorination.   And all 18 mohm and RO
> >>systems I ever used had carbon filters also in place to deal with
> >>removing those low level organics.
> >>
> >>John
> >When I lived in a friend's house in Pacifica, CA, homeowner got 
> >report periodically, of amounts of various things in the water. 
> >Benzine was on the list with measured amounts, as was bromine or 
> >bromide, don't remember what that was called.
> >
> >Benzine is in air pollution from petroleum burning.  Rain brings 
> >that to ground water.  It boils at 120, not 212.  If you heat tap 
> >water and see steam before it reaches boiling temp, you have passed 
> >other boiling points for benzine and bromine, to name a few solubles 
> >that boil off before water does.  Bromine boils off at 145F and 
> >Benzine boils off at 176F.  You can't pour water with soluble 
> >chemicals through any type of filter to make them get out of the 
> >water.  Only distillation separates them from the water.
> >
> >>
> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:24:23 -0400
> >>From: Mike Koenig <koenig.mike at gmail.com>
> >>Raybob,
> >>
> >>I'm trying not to sound arrogant or preacy here, but please know that you
> >>are trying to argue science and water purification with a number of us who
> >>have extensive first-hand knowledge and experience in this field, and don't
> >>try to convince us that there is some "magic" going on with distillation
> >>that makes it better or more pure than high-purity water produced by RO
> >>and/or deionization (often called 18-megohm water due to the electrical
> >>resistance of completely pure water).    You might be better served by
> >>opening your mind and listening to those of us who know a thing or two,
> >>rather than thinking you know better.
> >>
> >>In the world of water purification, single steam distillation is pretty
> >>lousy, and won't remove volatile organic components (benzene, to use your
> >>example,  being one of them, though it's almost never a problem in
> >>municipal tap water).   Your comment about "drinking all that benzene"
> >>makes it very clear that you have been fed a lot of conspiracy theories and
> >>propaganda by someone, and that you don't really know the subject very
> >>well.
> >>
> >>--mike
> >Mike,
> >I believe my personal experiences (and my 96 year old deceased 
> >grandparents) have very much "extensive first-hand knowledge and 
> >experience in this field".  My internal scientific meter can tell me 
> >after at least 1/2 gallon that a water labeled "distilled" on the 
> >bottle has fine print that says "made from distillation AND 
> >ozonation".  My gut can tell that.  My grandparents had bottled 
> >water brought to them by 5 gal bottles, ever since I can remember. 
> >In 1982, they bought their home distiller and used that soley until 
> >they had the nurse move in.  They were both very healthy at 96, when 
> >my dad treated them to a live-in care provider.  They were both dead 
> >within 1 year of that.  After they died is when my dad discovered 
> >the live-ins were not running the still.
> >
> >Raybob
> >
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