[Homeroast] Distilled H2O
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Tue Jun 11 00:58:32 CDT 2013
That's what we get in our Melting Pot Society, Alchemist! Some of our folks are Pre-Melted for our convenience.
> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:08:41 -0700
> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> From: john at chocolatealchemy.com
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Distilled H2O
> GAHHHH - I thought I gave up...but now I really do. No really. It's
> just not worth the effort to try and educate someone of blatantly
> wrongs statements when they have a closed mind.
> Enjoy your distilled water coffee.
> At 01:16 PM 6/10/2013, you wrote:
> >On 6/10/2013 10:00 AM, homeroast-request at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com wrote:
> >>From: John Nanci <john at chocolatealchemy.com>
> >>"all that benzine (sic)" I just have to ask, all what benzene? In
> >>15 years analyzing for benzene, I never found it once in water that
> >>was not a ground monitoring well (and not used for drinking). As for
> >>what organics, usually those refer to THM's and HAA's - both
> >>disinfection by products of chlorination. And all 18 mohm and RO
> >>systems I ever used had carbon filters also in place to deal with
> >>removing those low level organics.
> >When I lived in a friend's house in Pacifica, CA, homeowner got
> >report periodically, of amounts of various things in the water.
> >Benzine was on the list with measured amounts, as was bromine or
> >bromide, don't remember what that was called.
> >Benzine is in air pollution from petroleum burning. Rain brings
> >that to ground water. It boils at 120, not 212. If you heat tap
> >water and see steam before it reaches boiling temp, you have passed
> >other boiling points for benzine and bromine, to name a few solubles
> >that boil off before water does. Bromine boils off at 145F and
> >Benzine boils off at 176F. You can't pour water with soluble
> >chemicals through any type of filter to make them get out of the
> >water. Only distillation separates them from the water.
> >>Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:24:23 -0400
> >>From: Mike Koenig <koenig.mike at gmail.com>
> >>I'm trying not to sound arrogant or preacy here, but please know that you
> >>are trying to argue science and water purification with a number of us who
> >>have extensive first-hand knowledge and experience in this field, and don't
> >>try to convince us that there is some "magic" going on with distillation
> >>that makes it better or more pure than high-purity water produced by RO
> >>and/or deionization (often called 18-megohm water due to the electrical
> >>resistance of completely pure water). You might be better served by
> >>opening your mind and listening to those of us who know a thing or two,
> >>rather than thinking you know better.
> >>In the world of water purification, single steam distillation is pretty
> >>lousy, and won't remove volatile organic components (benzene, to use your
> >>example, being one of them, though it's almost never a problem in
> >>municipal tap water). Your comment about "drinking all that benzene"
> >>makes it very clear that you have been fed a lot of conspiracy theories and
> >>propaganda by someone, and that you don't really know the subject very
> >I believe my personal experiences (and my 96 year old deceased
> >grandparents) have very much "extensive first-hand knowledge and
> >experience in this field". My internal scientific meter can tell me
> >after at least 1/2 gallon that a water labeled "distilled" on the
> >bottle has fine print that says "made from distillation AND
> >ozonation". My gut can tell that. My grandparents had bottled
> >water brought to them by 5 gal bottles, ever since I can remember.
> >In 1982, they bought their home distiller and used that soley until
> >they had the nurse move in. They were both very healthy at 96, when
> >my dad treated them to a live-in care provider. They were both dead
> >within 1 year of that. After they died is when my dad discovered
> >the live-ins were not running the still.
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