[Homeroast] Uganda boycott > was RE: +Twelve roasts of Christmas

Claus Thøgersen thoeglist at gmail.com
Sun Dec 22 04:02:48 CST 2013


Hi,

For  the majority of people on this list, maybe you should look closer to 
home. Several American churches are unfortunately very successfull in 
promoting these beliefs in Africa unfortunately.

Claus


-----Oprindelig meddelelse----- 
From: Lynne Biziewski
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Uganda boycott > was RE: +Twelve roasts of 
Christmas

Sandy, I totally agree with you. Thank you for posting this.

Besides life in prison, haven't many died as a result of this horrendous
bigotry?

Lynne


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Sandy Andina 
<sandraandina at icloud.com>wrote:

> For those who haven't heard about it, in Uganda one can get life in prison
> without parole for either being gay or failing to inform the government
> about people one knows are gay. Protests and boycotts are the only ways
> people outside Uganda can bring this to light. Of course, a boycott alone
> probably won't change Ugandan laws in the short term. But these days
> boycotts can go viral, and influence those in other countries to speak out
> with their mouths and wallets. Playing the "it hurts the little guy" card
> is specious--by that logic, you are harming the workers and families of
> every country's goods you consciously choose not to purchase and even of
> every business you refuse to patronize. It can reach reductio ad absurdum.
> Meanwhile, Ugandan farmers and farm workers have already been paid for 
> what
> they've harvested. But announcing that henceforth one will not buy a
> country's major export commodity does send a message to its government,
> even if it takes years to effect a change.  As Edward says, Africa is big
> enough for us coffee lovers to satisfy our thirsts and support coffee
> workers & farmers without tacitly endorsing human rights violations. Money
> talks, and it ultimately can talk to those at the top.
>
> Sent from my iPad
> Sandy
> www.sandyandina.com
>
> On Dec 21, 2013, at 2:04 PM, Edward Bourgeois <edbourgeois at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > For those interested I'll post my friends blog. I know that there are
> some
> > of you on this list that will really appreciate and enjoy it. Africa is
> big
> > for us coffee lovers. And of course SM has helped us all get closer to
> the
> > people where our coffee originates.
> > She was studying and now on fellowship in several african countries. 
> > It's
> > not about coffee but is ag/food/environment/sustainable related.  She
> > writes so well about life for people in these various areas where coffee
> > I'm sure is often part of the local situation.
> > **Please realize she is in sensitive areas and so I don't comment to her
> > blog or post it too openly*** link http://madeinamherst.wordpress.com/
> > peace
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Edward Bourgeois <edbourgeois at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> An old friend's daughter is doing some food/ag studies/work in Uganda,
> >> some related to coffee too. Looking forward to hearing more when she
> >> returns next year.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 1:47 PM, John Nanci <john at chocolatealchemy.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sad but rather true.  It puts near everyone between a rock and a hard
> >>> place...except maybe the Uganda Parliament.
> >>>
> >>> So, Mike, got a copy of the Christmas coffee poem?  I seem to have
> >>> misplaced my copy.
> >>>
> >>> John
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> At 10:30 AM 12/21/2013, you wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Indeed, that'll put those struggling dirt poor peasant coffee farmers
> in
> >>>> their place....but somehow don't think it'll effect the Uganda
> >>>> Parliament in
> >>>> the least.
> >>>>
> >>>> Slave to the Bean miKe mcKoffee
> >>>> www.CompassCoffeeRoasting.com
> >>>> URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:
> >>>> http://www.mckoffee.com/
> >>>>
> >>>> Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I
> >>>> must
> >>>> first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal
> >>>> enlightenment
> >>>> found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone
> >>>> before.
> >>>>
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> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Homeroast [mailto:homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> ]
> >>>> On
> >>>> Behalf Of Sandy Andina
> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 3:46 PM
> >>>> To: A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
> >>>> list,available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] +Twelve roasts of Christmas
> >>>>
> >>>> I like Uganda Bugisu as much as anyone here, but after learning of
> >>>> Uganda's
> >>>> new breathtakingly cruel anti-gay law, I'm boycotting it.
> >>>> On Dec 20, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Bob Hazen <peatmonster at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On the second day of Christmas,
> >>>>>> my roaster sent to me
> >>>>>> Uganda Bugisu,
> >>>>
> >>>> Peace & Song,
> >>>> Sandy Andina
> >>>> www.sandyandina.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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> >> --
> >> Ed Bourgeois
> >> Amherst MA.
> >
> >
> >
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> > Amherst MA.
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