[Homeroast] espresso maker

Colin Wen colinwen at gmail.com
Tue May 29 18:20:39 CDT 2012

I am not a Italian (Taiwanese instead).
But I thought the espresso machine has been invented way back to 1884.
And the manual lever espresso machine has shown up at early 1990 (by
Bezzera first then sold to La Pavoni, wikipedia).

I am not a expert of stovetop/moka or whatever people call it.
But in my experience the flavor from the moka is never close to espresso.

Even the cheap home appliance - Sunbeam EM6910 can pour good espresso close
to commercial one (my opinion).
I will say the coffee taste is very from filter, dripping, siphon, moka and
espresso machine.
But I will never say the moka is a espresso maker.

However, probably I am a Taiwanese and did not know what Italian call their
Since they invent this word "espresso", they have the right to give it
definition, not me at least.

Hope John will get lovely espresso machine does not matter with one.


On 26 May 2012 03:12, Stephen Sadler <Docshiva at docshiva.org> wrote:

> I'm probably an espresso iconoclast. I have nothing against the machines. I
> love good small appliances and can see the appeal. However, the Italian
> part
> of me grew up with espresso decades before Starbucks, and as the machines
> became available people I knew of Italian upbringing - here and there -
> used
> the stovetop espresso makers. We considered machines, however lovely and
> fun
> they are, to be for businesses, especially ones catering to tourists. I
> still have that bias. I use stainless; I always though aluminum was a
> little
> suspect in terms of flavor.
> To further buck modern coffee society: I roast my espresso to city plus. I
> get a concentration of all the flavors the coffee has to offer at that
> roast; the same chocolate, fruit, nut, spice tones - but deeper. It's less
> bitter, more - to my palate - balanced, with a little sweetness to it. I
> lose the nuances with 'espresso' roast.
> At any rate, the stovetop makers are cheap, so you're not out much if you
> want to give one a try.
> ~ Stephen
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:47 PM, John <johnmonteleone at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I would love to get an espresso machine for my home. ?I've been reading
> about the Rancilio Silvia ? And wanted to get some opinions. I'm not
> opposed
> to the price but I've read that it might be expensive for what your
> getting.
> Creating foam is not a priority for me. I love a flavorful shot straight
> up.
> Any comments anyone.
> >
> > John
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