[Homeroast] Rancilio Silvia (Barry Luterman)

John johnmonteleone at gmail.com
Thu May 24 02:52:26 CDT 2012

Thanks so much. I love the God shot comment. 


On May 23, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Paul Jolly <pauljolly65 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I started on a Solis SL-70, graduating to a Silvia after a year or so.  Spent 2-1/2 years with it, so I got to know it quite well.  Barry's comments are spot-on; he's got every detail correct, as far as my experience went.  I added the PID and it helped with temp stability, but still a slow machine for several shots in a row.
> The next stop was a Vibiemme HX machine.  It was faster & more temp-stable.  It also cost a hell of a lot more, but I could afford it at the time and it was totally worth it.  Beware of the lure of the god-shot: once you pull one, you'll be seeking another, then another, then another (which explains much of the upgrade-itis in home espresso making).  
> Cheers,
> Paul
> Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 08:38:11 -0700
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> The Silvia is the espresso machine I broke in on. She is a demanding
> unforgiving mistress. One little error in preparation and the shot is
> sorely damaged. However, if you master her she is capable of producing
> outstanding shots. There is probably no better machine to learn on.
> Master her and when you move up to a more complete machine you will
> have little or no trouble producing consistent excellent shots.
> Pros:
> Good resale value
> 2 way valve.
> heavy construction (retains heat)
> Easy to clean and maintain
> If you are not  using foaming much or pulling multiple shots convenient to use
> Seldom needs repair. Very well built
> Cons:
> Broad thermostat shots can vary wildly in temperature.. Shots
> seemingly pulled exactly the same can vary from bitter to excellent to
> weak. Can be overcome with installation of a PID bur at more expense.
> Time consuming pulling multiple shots even with PID. If you have
> company expect to spend a long time in kitchen pulling shots.
> If doing a lot of steaming (and that does happen with company) machine
> is way too slow and a bit difficult to clean. Consider a double
> boiler.
> Because the machine is so well built if you do decide to upgrade when
> the machine starts to age and require repairs. You will have to wait a
> long long time. But as I said it does have good resale value and is a
> great machine for learning and use for one person having an occasional
> shot of espresso with no steamed milk added.
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:47 PM, John <johnmonteleone at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I would love to get an espresso machine for my home. ?I've been reading about the Rancilio Silvia ? And wanted to get some opinions. I'm not opposed to the price but I've read that it might be expensive for what your getting. Creating foam is not a priority for me. I love a flavorful shot straight up. Any comments anyone.
>> John
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