[Homeroast] Success with Cona Rod & Yama!

Doug Hoople doughoople at gmail.com
Sun Apr 29 18:22:55 CDT 2012


Congratulations, Phil!

Always nice to be looking back from the far side of a technical problem
like that.

Enjoy!
Doug

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 3:42 AM, Phil Palmintere
<phil.palmintere at gmail.com>wrote:

> Success with Cona Rod & Yama!
>
> First, a big thank-you to everyone who provided advice, both on-list &
> off-list, on how to use the Cona rod with a Yama vacuum pot.
>
> While we were living in Park City, UT for the winter (ski season), I never
> succeeded in successfully using the Cona rod with the Yama pot -- and
> before
> I was able to try the technique of the "Burst of Heat" just before
> drawdown,
> I broke the top globe to my Yama while washing it in the sink, and put the
> project aside, instead using my Clever Coffee Dripper for the rest of ski
> season.
>
> Now we're back home in the Las Vegas suburbs (altitude 3146, according to
> Google Earth), and more importantly, I tried the Cona here with my home vac
> pot, using the Burst of Heat method.
>
> Success!!!
>
> Well, sort of.  I'm not using my home roast; I decided to use some
> pre-ground coffee a friend brought back from Hawai'I -- a medium roast
> pre-ground for pour-over, sealed in an aluminum-ish packet - the size good
> for "one pot of coffee" (as if a "pot" were a standard unit of measure).
>
> Tomorrow I'm going to try it with my Ethiopia Illubabor - Camp Cooperative.
>
> Thanks again to everyone!
>
> Phil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> [mailto:homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com] On Behalf Of Doug
> Hoople
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 4:12 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Could it be my altitude - 6550 ft
>
> HI Phil,
>
> Contrary to intuition, coarser grind generally causes more stalling
> problems, not fewer, with the glass-rod vacpot. Nevertheless, IMHO, coarser
> grinds yield better flavor with the glass-rod vacpot, so it's worth the
> trouble to figure out how to make it work.
>
> Try the burst of heat just before drawdown, making sure it's applied long
> enough to jiggle the glass rod (shouldn't be any more than 5-8 seconds,
> often less).
>
> I'd be VERY surprised if that didn't clear things up.
>
> How dark was the commercial coffee you were brewing with?  Makes a huge
> difference with this brewing method.
>
> Thanks.
> Doug
>
> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 2:27 AM, g paris p <pchforever at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Phill:
> >
> > I am at 6500 ft and have never found a problem like that; I do not use
> > that method all the time but when I have for company it seems fine.
> >
> > If you continue to stall I would grind like you would for a French
> > Press, nice big grind.
> >
> > bet is is the grind, too fine.
> >
> > ginny
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Phil Palmintere
> > <phil.palmintere at gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > Well, I've failed about a 6 times in a row now with the Yama/Cona
> > > rod combination.  This last time, instead of home-roast,
> > > home-ground, I used store-bought pre-ground coffee - thinking a more
> > > consistent grind (less
> > > fines) might be the key.  I'm getting the same result - it stalls
> > > fairly quickly.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Now I'm wondering if maybe it is my altitude.  In the winter, I'm
> > > here in Park City UT at about 6550 feet elevation.  Since a vacuum
> > > pot in part works based on the pressure differential between the two
> > > globes, I'm wondering
> > if
> > > atmospheric pressure this high just isn't enough to "push" the
> > > liquid coffee from the top globe into the bottom past the Cona rod.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It seems to work OK with a cloth filter - it may start to stall, but
> > > a quick stir of the top globe coupled with perhaps a bit of scraping
> > > the
> > submerged
> > > filter with a teaspoon frees it up.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > While winters are at 6550 feet, summers are in the foothills above
> > > Las Vegas
> > > at about 3150 feet of elevation.   (these are according to google
> earth)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Have any of you found difficulty using a vacuum pot at elevation?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > >
> > >
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