[Homeroast] Homeroast Digest, Vol 51, Issue 4

John M. Howison johnmhowison at gmail.com
Fri Apr 6 12:13:14 CDT 2012


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>    1. Re: Espresso vs. Brew (Frank)
>    2. Re: Espresso vs. Brew (j3r)
>    3. (no subject) (John M. Howison)
>    4. Re: Green beans and weight loss (Jim Gundlach)
>    5. Re: (no subject) (Sandy Andina)
>    6. Re: (no subject) (Seth Grandeau)
>    7. Re: Espresso vs. Brew (Martin Maney)
>    8. Re: Green beans and weight loss (Ken Schillinger)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 19:10:21 +0000
> From: "Frank" <frankeegee1 at gmail.com>
> To: <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>, "Dave Matthews"
> 	<n36078 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Espresso vs. Brew
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> To me the AP makes a better tasting cup slightly. But still the ccd makes
> pretty good cup itself and I can make about 400 grms of drink with it. About
> grms 300 with the AP.
>
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> ------Original Message------
> From: Dave Matthews <n36078 at gmail.com>
> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this list,
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> Date: Wednesday, April 4, 2012 7:13:42 PM GMT-0400
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Espresso vs. Brew
>
> JP,
>
> Thanks for posting that.  I was going to order an Aeropress for our
> camper.  I had a small French press but it fell apart.  I prefer not go
> carry a glass press in the camper.
>
> My choices are now Clever Coffee Dripper and the Aeropress.
>
> Which do people reccomend?
>
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:40 PM, JP <erenfro at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> I've pretty much abandoned my Aeropress since the Clever Coffee Dripper
>> became available, but I've been thinking about the AP often lately.
>>
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 15:20:03 -0400
> From: j3r <j at j3r.org>
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> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Espresso vs. Brew
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> On 12-04-04 07:13 PM, Dave Matthews wrote:
>> JP,
>>
>> Thanks for posting that.  I was going to order an Aeropress for our
>> camper.  I had a small French press but it fell apart.  I prefer not go
>> carry a glass press in the camper.
>>
>> My choices are now Clever Coffee Dripper and the Aeropress.
>>
>> Which do people reccomend?
>>
>> Dave
>>
> I have both and I would definitely say go with the aeropress. I think it
> is more robust if you are traveling. Easier cleanup as well with less
> paper waste.
>
> Hint: you can get a reusable metal filter for the aeropress which makes
> it even more awesome. Highly recommended mod! I also use a gold filter
> in my CCD which works fine.
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:09:30 -0500
> From: "John M. Howison" <johnmhowison at gmail.com>
> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> Subject: [Homeroast] (no subject)
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> Thanks to all who responded to my brew-vs-espresso query.  Sure
> enough, one or two espressers let me know that if I didn't already
> appreciate espresso as the ultimate,  my case was hopeless.  On the
> other hand, many thought that brewed coffee could be as good as it
> gets.
>
> Then just when I began to think I had nothing new to learn, a couple
> of listers spoke up for mypressi, and allowed it to be a genuine
> espresso device.  Does it in fact produce coffee at sufficiently high
> pressure to be classed with stuff that Mike McKoffee (and few of the
> cafes in my neighborhood) sells?
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 16:53:20 -0500
> From: Jim Gundlach <pecanjim at bellsouth.net>
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> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Green beans and weight loss
> Message-ID: <AAE88761-3B58-466D-82B1-7FAD0728F50E at bellsouth.net>
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> I have lost almost 70 pounds over the last couple of years.  But, I cannot
> recommend the way I did it.  The medicine I was on for treatment of my brain
> being infected with encephalitis had the side effect of causing me to
> regurgitate if I ate more than two or three bites of food at a meal.  When
> medical treatment was over I found that my stomach had shrunken and I felt
> full after eating about a third as much at a meal as I used to.  I have
> simply refused to re-stretch my stomach.  But, I can't recommend brain
> encephalitis infection as a weight loss tool. the fatality rate for people
> over age 44 is about 96 percent.  I have a successful weight loss technique.
>  But, I can't write a book on it.
>    pecan jim
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 11:32 AM, phil.palmintere at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Another way:  spend 90+ days skiing, only taking time to make good coffee
>> in the morning prior to hitting the slopes (ok, maybe a piece of fruit),
>> and don't stop for lunch.  I've dropped 15 pounds this winter even though
>> the snow is poor.
>>
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "miKe mcKoffee" <mckona at comcast.net>
>> Sender: homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
>> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 17:24:26
>> To: 'A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for
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>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Green beans and weight loss
>>
>> Want to know a really effective way to lose weight? Go into business for
>> yourself working long hours often forgetting to eat during the day or at
>> best eating lightly on the run during most days. I've lost 35lb the past
>> few
>> years now less than 10 from ideal weight :) AND I still continue to eat
>> ice-cream almost every night after dinner!
>>
>> Slave to the Bean miKe mcKoffee
>> www.CompassCoffeeRoasting.com
>> URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:
>> http://www.mckoffee.com/
>>
>> Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I must
>> first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal
>> enlightenment
>> found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone
>> before.
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
>> [mailto:homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com] On Behalf Of Andy
>> Thomas
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:20 PM
>> To: A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Green beans and weight loss
>>
>> Thanks, Stephen. That puts the story in perspective. I agree with Colin;
>> if
>> you want to lose weight, eat right and exercise. I know, easier said than
>> done, but there it is. It seems foolish to me to rely on extract of [fill
>> in
>> the blank] for something, when the solution is dictated by common sense.
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 16:57:35 -0500
> From: Sandy Andina <sandraandina at mac.com>
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> I love both espresso and well-brewed coffee. Comparing the two is like
> comparing apples and chainsaws.
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 4:09 PM, John M. Howison wrote:
>
>> Thanks to all who responded to my brew-vs-espresso query.  Sure
>> enough, one or two espressers let me know that if I didn't already
>> appreciate espresso as the ultimate,  my case was hopeless.  On the
>> other hand, many thought that brewed coffee could be as good as it
>> gets.
>
> Peace & Song,
> Sandy Andina
> www.sandyandina.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 18:07:44 -0400
> From: Seth Grandeau <grandeau at gmail.com>
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> While a great espresso shot is a wonderful thing, no argument.  But I find
> it hard to make a great one at home, with the equipment that I own.  That
> being said, I personally love a nice big mug of coffee, that I can sip and
> savor for half an hour or more.
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Sandy Andina <sandraandina at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> I love both espresso and well-brewed coffee. Comparing the two is like
>> comparing apples and chainsaws.
>> On Apr 5, 2012, at 4:09 PM, John M. Howison wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks to all who responded to my brew-vs-espresso query.  Sure
>> > enough, one or two espressers let me know that if I didn't already
>> > appreciate espresso as the ultimate,  my case was hopeless.  On the
>> > other hand, many thought that brewed coffee could be as good as it
>> > gets.
>>
>> Peace & Song,
>> Sandy Andina
>> www.sandyandina.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 11:19:26 -0500
> From: Martin Maney <maney at two14.net>
> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Espresso vs. Brew
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> On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 07:10:21PM +0000, Frank wrote:
>> To me the AP makes a better tasting cup slightly. But still the ccd
>> makes pretty good cup itself and I can make about 400 grms of drink
>> with it.  About grms 300 with the AP.
>
> With the superb Bodum filters (1), folded snugly at the edge of the
> crimps, the paper filter fits the CCD perfectly and I can add 400g of
> hot water to a double dose of grounds.  With very bloomy coffees - and
> for this it seems to be as much about the bean & roast, not just
> freshness (I'm looking at you, Moka Kadir) - it's a tight fit, with
> others 430g or even more fits okay.  This is 40g of grounds, and I make
> up the balance of the 640g total water as a partial bypass (so
> nominally that's 240g in the carafe before I put the CCD on to drain).
> The drained grounds generally retain about twice their dry weight in
> water, so this should be about 560g of delicious coffee.
>
> When brewing this way, I grind one step finer on the Maestro than the
> setting that's optimum for my usual "single cup", and stir twice as in
> one of Tom's earlier CCD recipes, rather than just swirling the top
> gently, once, to stir the crust in.  All of which is to say that the
> overdosed extraction seems to benefit from a little more encouragement
> than the normal strength brew needs (or can stand - I like it best when
> it's very near the edge of what tastes a little too bitter to me).
>
> I'd guess that you could stretch this approach up to around 750ml
> before half the water would be bypassing the grounds, which for some
> reason I imagine to be as far as you'd want to go.  Must be something I
> read, though I have no idea where.  :-)
>
>
> (1) The Filtropa filters come up rather shorter, and would reduce the
> maximum in-cone load.  OTOH, that extra headspace would probably
> eliminate the occasional need to wipe some grounds off the lid!
>
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> which to blow out a mass of crude misrepresentations into a form
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>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 09:20:06 -0700
> From: "Ken Schillinger" <Ken at whidbey.com>
> To: "'A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Green beans and weight loss
> Message-ID: <004b01cd1411$2150b7b0$63f22710$@whidbey.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Glad to hear that you're stabilized on your weight, and off the medicine. I
> have just lost 19 pounds over the last month and a half, with about 120 to
> go. I'll do my best to avoid encephalitis, and the medicine!
>
> Best regards, Ken
>
> Who is drinking a cup "Raisin" coffee. Only about 12 pounds of it left in my
> stash, so I'm rationing it.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> [mailto:homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Gundlach
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 2:53 PM
> To: A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this list,
> available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Green beans and weight loss
>
> I have lost almost 70 pounds over the last couple of years.  But, I cannot
> recommend the way I did it.  The medicine I was on for treatment of my brain
> being infected with encephalitis had the side effect of causing me to
> regurgitate if I ate more than two or three bites of food at a meal.  When
> medical treatment was over I found that my stomach had shrunken and I felt
> full after eating about a third as much at a meal as I used to.  I have
> simply refused to re-stretch my stomach.  But, I can't recommend brain
> encephalitis infection as a weight loss tool. the fatality rate for people
> over age 44 is about 96 percent.  I have a successful weight loss technique.
> But, I can't write a book on it.
>    pecan jim
> On Apr 5, 2012, at 11:32 AM, phil.palmintere at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Another way:  spend 90+ days skiing, only taking time to make good coffee
> in the morning prior to hitting the slopes (ok, maybe a piece of fruit), and
> don't stop for lunch.  I've dropped 15 pounds this winter even though the
> snow is poor.
>>
>> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "miKe mcKoffee" <mckona at comcast.net>
>> Sender: homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
>> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 17:24:26
>> To: 'A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for thislist,
> available at
> http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html'<homeroast at lists.sweetmariascof
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>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Green beans and weight loss
>>
>> Want to know a really effective way to lose weight? Go into business
>> for yourself working long hours often forgetting to eat during the day
>> or at best eating lightly on the run during most days. I've lost 35lb
>> the past few years now less than 10 from ideal weight :) AND I still
>> continue to eat ice-cream almost every night after dinner!
>>
>> Slave to the Bean miKe mcKoffee
>> www.CompassCoffeeRoasting.com
>> URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:
>> http://www.mckoffee.com/
>>
>> Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I
>> must first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal
>> enlightenment found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who
> have gone before.
>>
>> Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archives
>> http://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
>> [mailto:homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com] On Behalf Of
>> Andy Thomas
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:20 PM
>> To: A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
>> list,available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html
>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Green beans and weight loss
>>
>> Thanks, Stephen. That puts the story in perspective. I agree with
>> Colin; if you want to lose weight, eat right and exercise. I know,
>> easier said than done, but there it is. It seems foolish to me to rely
>> on extract of [fill in the blank] for something, when the solution is
> dictated by common sense.
>>
>>
>>
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