[Homeroast] Hot Rod Home Coffee Roasters: The Spirit of Invention, revisited And the elusive 1lber

Robert Yoder robotyonder at hotmail.com
Thu Jul 21 23:45:10 CDT 2011


Me, too! Happy Roasting, robert yoder
 > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:27:28 -0700
> From: pchforever at gmail.com
> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Hot Rod Home Coffee Roasters: The Spirit of Invention, revisited And the elusive 1lber
> 
> Ivan:
> 
> do you have a picture of your insulation job? loe to see it.
> 
> ginny
> 
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:01 PM, sci <scizen at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > This insurance trap is real, I admit. It is stifling innovation across the
> > board. Nobody will take risk because there are droves of unemployed
> > attorneys (200K+) hungry to sue anybody. The system encourages it. Enact
> > "loser pays" legislation and most of this will stop. America, the land of
> > innovation, will come back from the brink. I see the high level of fear in
> > all kinds of businesses today and the way they interact with their
> > customers. Excessive fear of litigation, another ailment grinding our
> > economy to a halt.
> >
> > As for the 1lb roaster, I think the QM3 could easily do it with a little
> > improvement. I insulated my drum heavily and it has no problem doing 300g.
> > A
> > little more mass and power, with insulation, and slightly larger (say 20%),
> > and I think it could handle 450g roasts on a 15A circuit (dedicated
> > preferably). Perhaps a small hose taking exhaust heat and recirculating it
> > back into the intake would get the heat up to 1lb requirements. I love the
> > Q.
> >
> > Ivan
> >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > From: Rich <rich-mail at octoxol.com>
> > To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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> > Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Hot Rod Home Coffee Roasters: The Spirit of
> >       Invention, revisited And the elusive 1lber
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> > The cost to consumer is driven by the development costs and the
> > liability insurance costs. The 1-2Kg roaster that could sell for 500-750
> > will be more like 4500-4750 and up due to these costs. No liability
> > insurance company will provide coverage for an untested, brand new
> > design device that is capable of taking 2 to 4 lb of a highly
> > combustible material to 500F in less than 10 minutes with a forced or
> > induced draft. You would have better luck if you installed an automatic
> > 50lb CO2 fire suppression system on it but not much.
> >
> > Depending on where you live even buying a homeowners policy that
> > includes fire insurance is very difficult if you have a solid fuel
> > appliance in the building.
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