[Homeroast] Hot Rod Home Coffee Roasters: The Spirit of Invention, revisited And the elusive 1lber

g paris p pchforever at gmail.com
Tue Jul 19 10:27:28 CDT 2011


Ivan:

do you have a picture of your insulation job? loe to see it.

ginny

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 1:01 PM, sci <scizen at gmail.com> wrote:

> This insurance trap is real, I admit. It is stifling innovation across the
> board. Nobody will take risk because there are droves of unemployed
> attorneys (200K+) hungry to sue anybody. The system encourages it. Enact
> "loser pays" legislation and most of this will stop. America, the land of
> innovation, will come back from the brink. I see the high level of fear in
> all kinds of businesses today and the way they interact with their
> customers. Excessive fear of litigation, another ailment grinding our
> economy to a halt.
>
> As for the 1lb roaster, I think the QM3 could easily do it with a little
> improvement. I insulated my drum heavily and it has no problem doing 300g.
> A
> little more mass and power, with insulation, and slightly larger (say 20%),
> and I think it could handle 450g roasts on a 15A circuit (dedicated
> preferably). Perhaps a small hose taking exhaust heat and recirculating it
> back into the intake would get the heat up to 1lb requirements. I love the
> Q.
>
> Ivan
>
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>       Invention, revisited And the elusive 1lber
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> The cost to consumer is driven by the development costs and the
> liability insurance costs. The 1-2Kg roaster that could sell for 500-750
> will be more like 4500-4750 and up due to these costs. No liability
> insurance company will provide coverage for an untested, brand new
> design device that is capable of taking 2 to 4 lb of a highly
> combustible material to 500F in less than 10 minutes with a forced or
> induced draft. You would have better luck if you installed an automatic
> 50lb CO2 fire suppression system on it but not much.
>
> Depending on where you live even buying a homeowners policy that
> includes fire insurance is very difficult if you have a solid fuel
> appliance in the building.
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