[Homeroast] Quest M3?

Rich rich-mail at octoxol.com
Sat Jul 16 22:17:26 CDT 2011


I suggest searching YouTube. The transfer of drawings or plans should 
not incur any liability but you never know.

On 07/16/2011 08:42 PM, Rob Lombardi wrote:
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> Edward,
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> I'm certainly interested. If I was to build my own, would I need welding skills? My father lives next door and worked for FMC as a welder for building tanks. And my other neighbor is retired with a garage full of metal working equipment. Would that come in handy for building a roaster to handle 1lb loads?
>
> Regards,
> Robert Lombardi
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Edward Bourgeois"<edbourgeois at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 6:22pm
> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this list, available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"<homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Quest M3?
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> The DIY crowd  at that level is now pretty small. I've helped a few
> around the world build something a little simpler over the years but
> more of an improved SC/TO. There still seems to be a couple DIY small
> drum roasters made each year.
>
> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Robert Yoder<robotyonder at hotmail.com>  wrote:
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>> How about selling plans?  Would that protect you from the sharks? Happy Roasting, robert yoder
>>   >  Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:53:00 -0400
>>> From: edbourgeois at gmail.com
>>> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Quest M3?
>>>
>>> I agree, I had considered making a few  Dreamroasts to offer. Then I
>>> talked with my Lawyer friend. You either go all the way or stay happy
>>> with your own. There's no in-between that allows you to sleep well.
>>> Even the old selling as kit work around is no longer a way to avoid
>>> getting hauled into court. from what I was told.
>>>
>>> Someone on H-B attached a heat gun to the M3 to increase batch size
>>> some.  But I'm not sure the solid drum is big enough to add an element
>>> and get enough extra heat transfer to increase the batch size very
>>> much.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 6:21 PM, John Nanci<john at chocolatealchemy.com>  wrote:
>>>> Yes, that is true.  It has a 45 rpm motor.
>>>>
>>>> To answer the 'make it and they will buy it' card, all I can say is I'm busy
>>>> with Chocolate Alchemy.  And I don't have the $1000's (or 10-100's thereof)
>>>> to bring one to market.  Then we talk insurance - or lack thereof because it
>>>> couldn't get certified.  Nope, no way would I play that round of Russian
>>>> roulette.  And certification and insurance from the best I can tell is why
>>>> there isn't one out there.  It's why I make my own and am happy there.
>>>>
>>>> But I'll circle it around to the M3 at 1 lb - it's not certified already(and
>>>> what happens if someone has a fire and yelled lawsuit? I don't really want
>>>> to think about that) but should be able to be ramped up to handle 1 lb.
>>>>   Then again, having not seen one, I don't know if the drum could handle it.
>>>>
>>>> Alchemist John
>>>>
>>>> At 11:47 AM 7/16/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Alchemist, besides extra heating element didn't/doesn't your modified
>>>>> Behmor
>>>>> also have a faster drum motor which would give better bean movement hence
>>>>> better convection than the anemic 6rpm stock motor?
>>>>>
>>>>> IIRC your roaster is a custom job with insulated roast chamber. If you
>>>>> believe it can be duplicated in an efficient, affordable 1lb 110v 15A
>>>>> model,
>>>>> go for it and sell it! I know, easier said than done. But highly likely IS
>>>>> a
>>>>> decent market for a $1-$2k 1lb 110V 15A quality roaster. Just gotta wonder
>>>>> if so why there isn't one out there. Heck there are those supposed 3lb
>>>>> 110V
>>>>> 15A Homer roasters on eBay for $239 etc., not that I'd trust them...
>>>>>
>>>>> miKe
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
>>>>>> [mailto:homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of John Nanci
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 11:06 AM
>>>>>> To: A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules
>>>>>> for this list,available at
>>>>>> http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Quest M3?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are telling that true.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OTOH, I guess why I was wondering out loud is that my roaster is 20
>>>>>> amps (heaters, motor and fan included), is at partial power (60-70%)
>>>>>> when smoke suppression would be needed, and does without effort 1.5
>>>>>> lbs.  1 lb at 15 amps based on that seems more than feasible,
>>>>>> especially one without any safety controls (I mention that because
>>>>>> many of the Behmor's limitation are ETL imposed for general consumer
>>>>>> safety regs).  As it is, I had a modified Behmor on the bench that
>>>>>> does just that.  Extra element when the after burners are off (at the
>>>>>> beginning of the roast), and no temperature limits, and it cranks
>>>>>> through 1 lb in 10-11 minutes on 15 amps.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not looking for an argument, just musing out loud.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alchemist John
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 10:37 AM 7/16/2011, you wrote:
>>>>>>> Yup, and that technology ain't cheap. Could highly likely
>>>>>> make an excellent
>>>>>>> efficient 1lb 110V 15A and smokeless at that roaster, but
>>>>>> what market is
>>>>>>> there for a $5-$10k 1lb roaster?!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Slave to the Bean  miKe mcKoffee
>>>>>>> www.CompassCoffeeRoasting.com
>>>>>>> URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:
>>>>>>> http://www.mckoffee.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path.
>>>>>> To know I must
>>>>>>> first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each
>>>>>> Personal enlightenment
>>>>>>> found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who
>>>>>> have gone before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archives
>>>>>>> http://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
>>>>>>>> [mailto:homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Edward Bourgeois
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 8:47 AM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The heating  and closed exhaust system similar to the Loring would
>>>>>>>> seem like the direction to go.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 11:32 AM, miKe mcKoffee
>>>>>>>> <mcKona at comcast.net>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I tend to agree. While a 1lb capacity 110V 15A roaster
>>>>>>>> "can" be made, as
>>>>>>>>> evidenced by the Behmor, just doesn't seem viable with good
>>>>>>>> response or
>>>>>>>>> control at an affordable price point.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Seems theoretically might be possible since a good response
>>>>>>>> 1lb roaster like
>>>>>>>>> the USRC .5k uses a max 5,000 BTU gas burner and 5k BTU =
>>>>>>>> 1464W = 13.3A
>>>>>>>>> @110V, that's just the heater. Add the drum motor, fan and
>>>>>>>> any electronic
>>>>>>>>> controls pushing over the 110V 15A magic number. Now if it
>>>>>>>> was designed with
>>>>>>>>> cutting edge methods that recycle exhaust air back to
>>>>>>>> roasting likely could
>>>>>>>>> be done, but back to affordability.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Slave to the Bean  miKe mcKoffee
>>>>>>>>> www.CompassCoffeeRoasting.com
>>>>>>>>> URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.mckoffee.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path.
>>>>>>>> To know I must
>>>>>>>>> first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each
>>>>>>>> Personal enlightenment
>>>>>>>>> found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who
>>>>>>>> have gone before.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archives
>>>>>>>>> http://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com] On
>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Edward Bourgeois
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 6:56 AM
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It would have to be 220v and it's a very small shop so
>>>>>>>>>> unlikely from my view.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Michael Vanecek
>>>>>>>> <mike at mjv.com>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if Quest is going to come out with a 1lb
>>>>>>>>>> or half-kilo
>>>>>>>>>>> version of their little Quest M3?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Be well,
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Zone 8, Texas
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>>>>>>>>>> Ed Bourgeois aka farmroast
>>>>>>>>>> Amherst MA.
>>>>>>>>>> http://coffee-roasting.blogspot.com/
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