[Homeroast] Taste test Quest

Joseph Robertson theotherjo at gmail.com
Sun Jan 30 12:02:16 CST 2011


Ahhh,
yes, like a brand new Italian sports car sitting in your driveway. I thought
I knew how to drive till my mom gave me a nice new sports car. <];^))
You know I'm gesting. Each and every machine has a learning curve. Welcome
to a brand new road.
I bet you do roast some nice coffee's Barry.
Joe

On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Barry Luterman <lutermanb at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just received a thermocouple from SM yesterday.The roast in question was
> done with the meat looking thermometer supplied with the Quest. It is hard
> to see a stall with that piece. I am thinking of throwing away the pound I
> roasted and trying again using the thermocouple. I am enjoying the roaster
> but being humbled by it. I am a better roaster than it is making me seem.
>
> On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Joseph Robertson <theotherjo at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Barry,
> > I know many of us don't possess a nice thermoprobe in the right spot in
> the
> > roasting bean mass but that said it is very critical that from drop to
> eor
> > there should always be a climb in temp. That "roc" or rate of climb will
> > determine the end result in the cup. As long as there is a constant
> > increase
> > of temp all through the roast there will not be any "baked" beans. My
> > greatest fear is seeing a flat line like that monitor you look up at when
> > in
> > the emergency room or critical care at the hospital and the site and
> sound
> > of a red line streaming across the screen.
> > Forgive me if all this ramble is rudimentary to you. I hope your having
> fun
> > with your Quest. I can't wait to get my hands on one and play with the
> rest
> > of you guys.
> > Joe
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Barry Luterman <lutermanb at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Start of first crack was at 10 minutes after introduction of the beans.
> > > coffee was dumped at  15 minutes  15 seconds after the beginning of
> first
> > > crack. Coffee was dumped after a few snaps into second. As stated
> > > previously
> > > First crack was weak with little chaff. I am beginning to suspect there
> > > were
> > > some backed beans in the batch. That is why I am thinking of increasing
> > the
> > > heat of the initial ramp.
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> > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 8:15 PM, miKe mcKoffee <mcKona at comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > If you're looking for "less" brightness you don't want to speed up
> the
> > > > roast. What was your start of 1st and 1st to end of roast times?
> > > >
> > > > Slave to the Bean  miKe mcKoffee
> > > > www.CompassCoffeeRoasting.com <http://www.compasscoffeeroasting.com/
> ><
> > http://www.compasscoffeeroasting.com/>
> >  > > URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:
> > > > http://www.mckoffee.com/
> > > >
> > > > Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I
> > > must
> > > > first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal
> > > enlightenment
> > > > found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone
> > > > before.
> > > >
> > > > Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archives
> > > > http://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > > > > [mailto:homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com] On
> > > > > Behalf Of Barry Luterman
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 10:00 AM
> > > > > To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > > > > Subject: [Homeroast] Taste test Quest
> > > > >
> > > > > Finally, I had enough confidence in the Quest to try a roast
> > > > > with one of my
> > > > > A list coffees. I used Bali Kintamani Wet Hulled Arabica. The
> > > > > reason I chose
> > > > > this coffee was that I had a pound of it roasted in the
> > > > > Behmor and could do
> > > > > a side by side taste test.
> > > > > I roasted 2,8 oz roasts, back to back, using Steve Sakoman's
> > > > > profile. Both
> > > > > roast s behaved exactly the same. Using Steve's profile my times
> were
> > > > > approximately one minute longer than Steve's for this coffee.
> > > > > I may do the
> > > > > next roast starting at 9 Amps rather than 8.5. The roast proceeded
> > > > > beautifully. Not too long of a first crack with little chaff. This
> is
> > > > > consistent with results obtained from my Hot Top and is the
> > > > > nature of this
> > > > > particular coffee. The roast was ended as the beans were on
> > > > > the verge of
> > > > > second crack. There were some snaps of second crack while the
> > > > > cooling tray
> > > > > was moved to the cooling chamber. I then waited four days
> > > > > until the taste
> > > > > test.
> > > > >
> > > > > Side by Side Taste Test
> > > > >
> > > > > I ground each coffee in a Mazzer Mini grinder at  the same setting.
> I
> > > > > thoroughly cleaned the grinder after grinding the first set
> > > > > of beans and
> > > > > before grinding the second set of beans. Two pots of coffee
> > > > > were brewed in a
> > > > > Technivorm brewer equipped with a gold filter. I am not a
> > professional
> > > > > taster. I did not slurp the coffee but took sips of each cup.
> > However,
> > > > > luckily I do have a professional taster notes for this
> > > > > particular bean. See:
> > > > > http://www.sweetmarias.com/coffee.indonesia.bali.php
> > > > > Tom rates this coffee only 5 on clean cup and 7.7 on
> > > > > brightness. Side by
> > > > > side taste tests reveal these scores are certainly valid for
> > > > > the Behmor
> > > > > roasted cup. However, the Quest brewed cup was considerably
> > > > > brighter and
> > > > > cleaner than the Behmor cup. Unfortunately, both my wife and
> > > > > I are not big
> > > > > fans of bright coffees. We tend to shy away from the Africans and
> > were
> > > > > attracted to the Bali for its rich chocolate tones rather
> > > > > than the fruits. I
> > > > > will let the roast rest another 2 days and try again. Right
> > > > > now I know it
> > > > > will not pull a good shot of espresso. I will hold off
> > > > > another 3 or 4 days
> > > > > before attempting pulling a shot with it. So far however,
> > > > > there is quite a
> > > > > noticeable difference in the cupping of the same bean from
> > > > > the 2 different
> > > > > roasters.
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