[Homeroast] List Traffic at Zero and Roast Time Length

Mark Jones mpj100 at comcast.net
Mon Sep 27 12:46:34 CDT 2010


Thanks Chris! I'll have to try it on mine. 



Mark P. Jones 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yakster" <yakster at gmail.com> 
To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this list, available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html" <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com> 
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2010 1:00:16 PM 
Subject: Re: [Homeroast] List Traffic at Zero and Roast Time Length 

It is a risk, of course and any time you go outside the manufacturers 
recommendations you take it upon yourself. 

My Behmor was purchased refurbished and has a date of 2007 on it. I've had 
it over a year and run over a hundred batches on it. I'm willing to risk 
any shortening of the life of this unit at this point, but I do accomplish 
the main amount of cooling in the Behmor and restart the cooling cycle right 
away after pulling the drum so I feel that the risk is minimal. Your 
mileage may vary. 

The Behmor's are built like a tank. I've replaced the afterburner twice 
(due to wires that were nicked when the insulation was stripped giving way 
and breaking) and I've heard others have replaced the motors so I believe 
that if I have a problem I can purchase a replacement part or replacement 
roaster and resolve it. 

-Chris 

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Mark Jones <mpj100 at comcast.net> wrote: 

> Does stopping the behmor affect the machine's operation? I thought I read 
> where Joe didn't recommend stopping the machine until it has totally 
> finished the cooling cycle. 
> 
> 
> 
> Mark P. Jones 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Yakster" <yakster at gmail.com> 
> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this list, 
> available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html" < 
> homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com> 
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:41:29 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] List Traffic at Zero and Roast Time Length 
> 
> I've been pushing close to a full pound lately on my Behmor and liking the 
> results. I used to target between 10 - 13 oz but was always short on coffee 
> during the week so I push close to a full pound when I'm roasting light shy 
> of Full City+ which since I roast to City and City+ for most roasts is fine 
> with me. 
> 
> I've also been opening the door during first crack to slow the roll. I do a 
> P3 typically to first and open the door to control the temp (watch the temp 
> on a thermocouple in the back of the Behmor. I start with a pre-heat by 
> running the Behmor for a minute with the (old style) chaff try in, then 
> hitting stop and putting in the loaded drum with my Ove Glove protected 
> hands and programming my P3 profile and hitting start. This gives me a 
> drop-in temp of 200 degrees and also helps to make my summer/winter roast 
> profiles more closely correlated since they start at about the same temp 
> instead of 20 - 30 degrees apart. When the Behmor has been in the cool 
> cycle for about two minutes, I'll hit stop and pull the drum and dump the 
> beans in my external bean cooler and restart the cooling cycle on the 
> Behmor 
> to cool the beans down within about four minutes. I find that the Behmor 
> does a great job bringing the beans down to about 200 degrees F, but after 
> that the cooling slows and the oven will retain heat so it really slows 
> when 
> trying for room temp beans. 
> 
> This is giving times in the 14 - 18 minute range to first crack which many 
> will consider too long, but I've been liking what I'm getting in the cup 
> and 
> liking the increased batch size. Note that I did pick out the hottest 
> outlet to roast (highest voltage, least voltage drop) for best performance 
> by using the washer dryer outlet that's on it's own circuit on a short run 
> from the breaker box, I think that helps. I use a Kill-A-Watt to watch the 
> voltage and once decided it was a no-go for roasting because I was smoking 
> meat with the electric meat smoker in the back yard during a hot summer day 
> and the Behmor on the pre-heat pulled the voltage down to 112 or 114 V 
> which 
> I knew was a no-go. 
> 
> Good luck! 
> 
> -Chris 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:42 PM, ricky carter <rickylc99 at gmail.com> 
> wrote: 
> 
> > 200 to 300 grams seems to be the sweet spot for me in the Behmor. Smaller 
> > load sizes are definitely more difficult to get right, for me anyway. 
> > 
> > I think the Behmor works on both radiant and bean to bean convective (?) 
> > too. If you don't have enough bean mass to store the radiant heat things 
> > may 
> > go slower and less predictably? just a thought, no solid evidence other 
> > than roasting results. 
> > 
> > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Robert Yoder <robotyonder at hotmail.com 
> > >wrote: 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Hi, Claus, 
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your post. 
> > > 
> > > I checked with Joe Behm before purchasing my Behmor. He was kind enough 
> > to 
> > > try a fifth-pound roast, but said it took LONGER than he had expected. 
> > > 
> > > I do open the door a bit at first crack. 
> > > 
> > > This weekend I'll give it another go. 
> > > 
> > > Still a work in progress. 
> > > 
> > > Happy Roasting, 
> > > 
> > > robert 
> > > 
> > > > From: thoeg at get2net.dk 
> > > > To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com 
> > > > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:04:07 +0200 
> > > > Subject: Re: [Homeroast] List Traffic at Zero and Roast Time Length 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi, 
> > > > 1/5 that is technical less than the Behmor can roast on the settings. 
> > > > I have never really used 1/4 pound, but it is said to be a hard small 
> > > batch 
> > > > to roast, so smaller is probably even harder. 
> > > > Have you tried opening the door during the end of first crack? 
> > > > 
> > > > Claus 
> > > > 
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Robert Yoder" <robotyonder at hotmail.com> 
> > > > To: <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com> 
> > > > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 6:26 AM 
> > > > Subject: Re: [Homeroast] List Traffic at Zero and Roast Time Length 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi Kevin, 
> > > > > 
> > > > > It looks like we've got a little movement, so the connections are 
> > good! 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I've had a lull in roasting, lately. I went from popper to 
> > uber-popper 
> > > to 
> > > > > Behmor. My typical roast is 1/5 pound and I haven't found a good 
> way 
> > to 
> > > > > get that done. The Behmor produced a noticeable improvement over 
> the 
> > > > > air-poppers (IMO), but I've seen all along that it roasted too 
> fast. 
> > > When 
> > > > > that small batch goes into exothermic, there's no stretching time 
> at 
> > > all. 
> > > > > (Typical Roast is P1 or P2). I despair over the Behmor, feeling 
> that 
> > it 
> > > > > is so much more but so much less than I want. My last roast before 
> my 
> > > > > roasting hiatus used P3, or P4 (notes not at hand) in order to 
> > stretch 
> > > out 
> > > > > the roast to a reasonable length. Unless this was completely 
> random, 
> > if 
> > > I 
> > > > > recall correctly, the depth of flavor from that roast was 
> > astonishing, 
> > > > > compared to what I had been experiencing. This is the first time I 
> > have 
> > > > > sort of given up roasting out of frustration, and I think the 
> Behmor 
> > is 
> > > > > the instigator: it showed me both what I hadn't got and what I 
> don't 
> > > seem 
> > > > > to be able to get. So the Behmor has 
> > > > > been a great, instructive, pause in my journey. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Happy Roasting, 
> > > > > 
> > > > > robert yoder 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >> From: ckevinj at gmail.com 
> > > > >> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:31:08 -0500 
> > > > >> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com 
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] List Traffic at Zero 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Well tonight I was feeling lazy so I whipped out the behmor for 
> the 
> > > > >> liquid amber instead of moving the propane tank back to the 
> roasting 
> > > > >> grill after the propane died in the food grill. Some days all you 
> > can 
> > > do 
> > > > >> is just roll with punches. 
> > > > >> I will let it rest until Saturday or maybe Sunday if I can. Not 
> too 
> > > happy 
> > > > >> with my blend and roast currently in the maestre espresso grinder 
> > > based 
> > > > >> on the CR finca Alaska. It came out a bit light and is kind of 
> > > sharpish 
> > > > >> on the tongue. 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> And you? 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> -kc 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> On Sep 23, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Robert Yoder < 
> robotyonder at hotmail.com> 
> > > > >> wrote: 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > > >> > Thanks! What roaster are you using? 
> > > > >> > 
> > > > >> > Happy Roasting, 
> > > > >> > 
> > > > >> > robert yoder 
> > > > >> >> From: ckevinj at gmail.com 
> > > > >> >> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:40:25 -0500 
> > > > >> >> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com 
> > > > >> >> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] List Traffic at Zero 
> > > > >> >> 
> > > > >> >> Roasted some liquid amber tonight and looking forward to 
> > tomorrows 
> > > SM 
> > > > >> >> package being delivered. 
> > > > >> >> 
> > > > >> >> -kc 
> > > > >> >> 
> > > > >> >> On Sep 23, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Robert Yoder < 
> > robotyonder at hotmail.com 
> > > > 
> > > > >> >> wrote: 
> > > > >> >> 
> > > > >> >>> 
> > > > >> >>> Greetings, Roaster-folk, 
> > > > >> >>> 
> > > > >> >>> No posts received for several days. Is the list down? 
> > > > >> >>> 
> > > > >> >>> Test, test, test, 
> > > > >> >>> 
> > > > >> >>> Happy Roasting, 
> > > > >> >>> 
> > > > >> >>> robert yoder 
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