[Homeroast] List Traffic at Zero and Roast Time Length

Mark Jones mpj100 at comcast.net
Mon Sep 27 11:48:23 CDT 2010


Does stopping the behmor affect the machine's operation? I thought I read where Joe didn't recommend stopping the machine until it has totally finished the cooling cycle. 



Mark P. Jones 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yakster" <yakster at gmail.com> 
To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this list, available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html" <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com> 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 8:41:29 PM 
Subject: Re: [Homeroast] List Traffic at Zero and Roast Time Length 

I've been pushing close to a full pound lately on my Behmor and liking the 
results. I used to target between 10 - 13 oz but was always short on coffee 
during the week so I push close to a full pound when I'm roasting light shy 
of Full City+ which since I roast to City and City+ for most roasts is fine 
with me. 

I've also been opening the door during first crack to slow the roll. I do a 
P3 typically to first and open the door to control the temp (watch the temp 
on a thermocouple in the back of the Behmor. I start with a pre-heat by 
running the Behmor for a minute with the (old style) chaff try in, then 
hitting stop and putting in the loaded drum with my Ove Glove protected 
hands and programming my P3 profile and hitting start. This gives me a 
drop-in temp of 200 degrees and also helps to make my summer/winter roast 
profiles more closely correlated since they start at about the same temp 
instead of 20 - 30 degrees apart. When the Behmor has been in the cool 
cycle for about two minutes, I'll hit stop and pull the drum and dump the 
beans in my external bean cooler and restart the cooling cycle on the Behmor 
to cool the beans down within about four minutes. I find that the Behmor 
does a great job bringing the beans down to about 200 degrees F, but after 
that the cooling slows and the oven will retain heat so it really slows when 
trying for room temp beans. 

This is giving times in the 14 - 18 minute range to first crack which many 
will consider too long, but I've been liking what I'm getting in the cup and 
liking the increased batch size. Note that I did pick out the hottest 
outlet to roast (highest voltage, least voltage drop) for best performance 
by using the washer dryer outlet that's on it's own circuit on a short run 
from the breaker box, I think that helps. I use a Kill-A-Watt to watch the 
voltage and once decided it was a no-go for roasting because I was smoking 
meat with the electric meat smoker in the back yard during a hot summer day 
and the Behmor on the pre-heat pulled the voltage down to 112 or 114 V which 
I knew was a no-go. 

Good luck! 

-Chris 

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 11:42 PM, ricky carter <rickylc99 at gmail.com> wrote: 

> 200 to 300 grams seems to be the sweet spot for me in the Behmor. Smaller 
> load sizes are definitely more difficult to get right, for me anyway. 
> 
> I think the Behmor works on both radiant and bean to bean convective (?) 
> too. If you don't have enough bean mass to store the radiant heat things 
> may 
> go slower and less predictably? just a thought, no solid evidence other 
> than roasting results. 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Robert Yoder <robotyonder at hotmail.com 
> >wrote: 
> 
> > 
> > Hi, Claus, 
> > 
> > Thanks for your post. 
> > 
> > I checked with Joe Behm before purchasing my Behmor. He was kind enough 
> to 
> > try a fifth-pound roast, but said it took LONGER than he had expected. 
> > 
> > I do open the door a bit at first crack. 
> > 
> > This weekend I'll give it another go. 
> > 
> > Still a work in progress. 
> > 
> > Happy Roasting, 
> > 
> > robert 
> > 
> > > From: thoeg at get2net.dk 
> > > To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com 
> > > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:04:07 +0200 
> > > Subject: Re: [Homeroast] List Traffic at Zero and Roast Time Length 
> > > 
> > > Hi, 
> > > 1/5 that is technical less than the Behmor can roast on the settings. 
> > > I have never really used 1/4 pound, but it is said to be a hard small 
> > batch 
> > > to roast, so smaller is probably even harder. 
> > > Have you tried opening the door during the end of first crack? 
> > > 
> > > Claus 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Robert Yoder" <robotyonder at hotmail.com> 
> > > To: <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com> 
> > > Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 6:26 AM 
> > > Subject: Re: [Homeroast] List Traffic at Zero and Roast Time Length 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Kevin, 
> > > > 
> > > > It looks like we've got a little movement, so the connections are 
> good! 
> > > > 
> > > > I've had a lull in roasting, lately. I went from popper to 
> uber-popper 
> > to 
> > > > Behmor. My typical roast is 1/5 pound and I haven't found a good way 
> to 
> > > > get that done. The Behmor produced a noticeable improvement over the 
> > > > air-poppers (IMO), but I've seen all along that it roasted too fast. 
> > When 
> > > > that small batch goes into exothermic, there's no stretching time at 
> > all. 
> > > > (Typical Roast is P1 or P2). I despair over the Behmor, feeling that 
> it 
> > > > is so much more but so much less than I want. My last roast before my 
> > > > roasting hiatus used P3, or P4 (notes not at hand) in order to 
> stretch 
> > out 
> > > > the roast to a reasonable length. Unless this was completely random, 
> if 
> > I 
> > > > recall correctly, the depth of flavor from that roast was 
> astonishing, 
> > > > compared to what I had been experiencing. This is the first time I 
> have 
> > > > sort of given up roasting out of frustration, and I think the Behmor 
> is 
> > > > the instigator: it showed me both what I hadn't got and what I don't 
> > seem 
> > > > to be able to get. So the Behmor has 
> > > > been a great, instructive, pause in my journey. 
> > > > 
> > > > Happy Roasting, 
> > > > 
> > > > robert yoder 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >> From: ckevinj at gmail.com 
> > > >> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:31:08 -0500 
> > > >> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com 
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] List Traffic at Zero 
> > > >> 
> > > >> Well tonight I was feeling lazy so I whipped out the behmor for the 
> > > >> liquid amber instead of moving the propane tank back to the roasting 
> > > >> grill after the propane died in the food grill. Some days all you 
> can 
> > do 
> > > >> is just roll with punches. 
> > > >> I will let it rest until Saturday or maybe Sunday if I can. Not too 
> > happy 
> > > >> with my blend and roast currently in the maestre espresso grinder 
> > based 
> > > >> on the CR finca Alaska. It came out a bit light and is kind of 
> > sharpish 
> > > >> on the tongue. 
> > > >> 
> > > >> And you? 
> > > >> 
> > > >> -kc 
> > > >> 
> > > >> On Sep 23, 2010, at 9:51 PM, Robert Yoder <robotyonder at hotmail.com> 
> > > >> wrote: 
> > > >> 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > Thanks! What roaster are you using? 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > Happy Roasting, 
> > > >> > 
> > > >> > robert yoder 
> > > >> >> From: ckevinj at gmail.com 
> > > >> >> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:40:25 -0500 
> > > >> >> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com 
> > > >> >> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] List Traffic at Zero 
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >> Roasted some liquid amber tonight and looking forward to 
> tomorrows 
> > SM 
> > > >> >> package being delivered. 
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >> -kc 
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >> On Sep 23, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Robert Yoder < 
> robotyonder at hotmail.com 
> > > 
> > > >> >> wrote: 
> > > >> >> 
> > > >> >>> 
> > > >> >>> Greetings, Roaster-folk, 
> > > >> >>> 
> > > >> >>> No posts received for several days. Is the list down? 
> > > >> >>> 
> > > >> >>> Test, test, test, 
> > > >> >>> 
> > > >> >>> Happy Roasting, 
> > > >> >>> 
> > > >> >>> robert yoder 
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