[Homeroast] bring back green beans

Rich rich-mail at octoxol.com
Sat Sep 18 15:52:50 CDT 2010


Homeland Security is an oxymoron and when it was originally announced I 
mentally pictured a box on a German org chart from the 1930s.  That has 
to be the most tone deaf name for a Govt. Bureaucracy I have ever heard.

Hank Perkins wrote:
> I was on my way to DC on 9-11 (with my knife in my pocket).  Had we
> not been diverted to the ground I would have landed within minutes of
> the plane hitting the Pentagon.
> 
> For the next 2 years I carried the same briefcase when I traveled.
> After 2 years it broke and I cleaned it out.  I had inserted some foam
> in the bottom to cushion my laptop.  I found a leatherman under the
> foam that had been in there for years.  How may trips had I made?
> somewhere between 15 and 30.  So potentially 60 passes through
> security.  2 of the trips were international.  On both International
> trips I was pulled out of line a given the through search.  Who knows
> how many domestic trips where this occurred.
> 
> On one of the domestic trips I was flying out of Nashville TN where I
> had a Agent go off on me (my daughter was with me, she was 18 at the
> time ).  He had me go into the glass booth and pull my pants down.
> Yea, you got it, daughter standing there.  And the Leatherman was in
> the bag.
> 
> This is why I drive as much as I do.  I have a poor opinion of TSA and
> Homeland Security.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Joseph Robertson <theotherjo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> They are not gaining my confidence. Two years after 9/11 I boarded a flight
>> out of Kalamazoo Mi. for PDX and home.
>> Let me back up a bit. When I awoke at 2am to leave the house by 3am I
>> intentionally tossed my two very nice folding craftsman box type knives into
>> my check on to avoid problems at the gate.
>> Well a week later at home I went through my check on bags looking for my box
>> razor knifes. Not to be found. I figured they took them.
>> Then on a fluke I checked my carry on and what do you know, there they were
>> safe and sound. I had unknowingly carried on two lethal tools used to bring
>> down planes 2 years before. Gaining my confidence? Not now, or ever.
>> You want my trust. Don't make these kind of mistakes cause your looking at
>> my shampoo and toothpaste and computer wall warts.
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Martin Maney <maney at two14.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 01:53:31AM -0600, raymanowen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Under no circumstances should anyone be able to gain the confidence
>>>> of any security person.
>>> I'm sure you don't mean that.  If that were true then they should
>>> simply not let anyone board or exit any plane at any time.  Letting
>>> someone past *means* they've "gained the confidence" of the
>>> inspector(s).
>>>
>>>> That's the worst situation I can imagine, and if you can do it at will,
>>> use
>>>> common sense and start to fear for your welfare and those around you.
>>> Don't let the fearmongers manipulate you for their own purposes.  They
>>> want you scared, because scared people are more easily duped.  Fear is
>>> the mind-killer...
>>>
>>>> I thought I'd try for a security inspector's job at DIA, but the farther
>>> I
>>>> got into it, the more it looked to be like a *Three Stooges* show.
>>> Yep, security theater.  It has been ever thus.
>>>
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>>> again and again surprised?  -- Nicholas van Rijn
>>>
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