[Homeroast] bring back green beans
rich-mail at octoxol.com
Sat Sep 18 15:52:50 CDT 2010
Homeland Security is an oxymoron and when it was originally announced I
mentally pictured a box on a German org chart from the 1930s. That has
to be the most tone deaf name for a Govt. Bureaucracy I have ever heard.
Hank Perkins wrote:
> I was on my way to DC on 9-11 (with my knife in my pocket). Had we
> not been diverted to the ground I would have landed within minutes of
> the plane hitting the Pentagon.
> For the next 2 years I carried the same briefcase when I traveled.
> After 2 years it broke and I cleaned it out. I had inserted some foam
> in the bottom to cushion my laptop. I found a leatherman under the
> foam that had been in there for years. How may trips had I made?
> somewhere between 15 and 30. So potentially 60 passes through
> security. 2 of the trips were international. On both International
> trips I was pulled out of line a given the through search. Who knows
> how many domestic trips where this occurred.
> On one of the domestic trips I was flying out of Nashville TN where I
> had a Agent go off on me (my daughter was with me, she was 18 at the
> time ). He had me go into the glass booth and pull my pants down.
> Yea, you got it, daughter standing there. And the Leatherman was in
> the bag.
> This is why I drive as much as I do. I have a poor opinion of TSA and
> Homeland Security.
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Joseph Robertson <theotherjo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> They are not gaining my confidence. Two years after 9/11 I boarded a flight
>> out of Kalamazoo Mi. for PDX and home.
>> Let me back up a bit. When I awoke at 2am to leave the house by 3am I
>> intentionally tossed my two very nice folding craftsman box type knives into
>> my check on to avoid problems at the gate.
>> Well a week later at home I went through my check on bags looking for my box
>> razor knifes. Not to be found. I figured they took them.
>> Then on a fluke I checked my carry on and what do you know, there they were
>> safe and sound. I had unknowingly carried on two lethal tools used to bring
>> down planes 2 years before. Gaining my confidence? Not now, or ever.
>> You want my trust. Don't make these kind of mistakes cause your looking at
>> my shampoo and toothpaste and computer wall warts.
>> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Martin Maney <maney at two14.net> wrote:
>>> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 01:53:31AM -0600, raymanowen at gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Under no circumstances should anyone be able to gain the confidence
>>>> of any security person.
>>> I'm sure you don't mean that. If that were true then they should
>>> simply not let anyone board or exit any plane at any time. Letting
>>> someone past *means* they've "gained the confidence" of the
>>>> That's the worst situation I can imagine, and if you can do it at will,
>>>> common sense and start to fear for your welfare and those around you.
>>> Don't let the fearmongers manipulate you for their own purposes. They
>>> want you scared, because scared people are more easily duped. Fear is
>>> the mind-killer...
>>>> I thought I'd try for a security inspector's job at DIA, but the farther
>>>> got into it, the more it looked to be like a *Three Stooges* show.
>>> Yep, security theater. It has been ever thus.
>>> To be alive, is that not to be
>>> again and again surprised? -- Nicholas van Rijn
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