[Homeroast] Behmore end of roast request change

Robert Yoder robotyonder at hotmail.com
Mon Oct 11 15:34:00 CDT 2010


Thanks, Mike, for sharing Joe Behm's email!
 
Happy Roasting,
 
robert 
 
> Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 07:43:27 -0700
> From: mike_kae at yahoo.com
> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> Subject: [Homeroast] Behmore end of roast request change
> 
> I know that others have a desire similar to my own to change the way the roast ends on a Behmor.  While a current thread ponders the wisdom of always ending on 100 % power, I think that its not all that difficult to change this by cracking open the door after 1C.  What I am concerned with is ensuring that I get enough roast time at the end to make it exactly as far as I want.
> 
> A couple of months ago, I sent some feedback to Behmor to this effect.  It seems that Joe Behm would like to incorporate such a change into the Behmor.  Below is the response and conversation.
> 
> -Mike
> 
> 
> -email chain
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Mike,
> 
> I agree your suggestions would require the user to be there
> during the process. Then it's a matter of doing it with the existing 
> buttons if at all possible..
> 
> My rep and I have been tossing around new ideas to the assembly plant almost daily since my last visit in May. 
> 
> We'll
> get there and somehow work it in a way it's safe or as safe as humanly 
> possible.. Key is getting all the engineers to agree..
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> Go to www.behmor.com/manual.html for the latest updates and manual revisions
> 
> 
> Joe Behm
> Behmor Inc.
> 120 Country Club Dr. 22-L
> Incline Village, NV. 89451
> 775-833-3363
> www.behmor.com
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "michael kaericher" [mike_kae at yahoo.com]
> Date: 07/28/2010 08:25 AM
> To: "Behmor Sales-Joe Behm" <sales at behmor.com>
> Subject: Re: Contact form
> 
> Joe,
> Thanks for your response.  
> I
> appreciate your concern for safety, which is why neither solution that I
> proposed would allow the user to add the extra time upfront.
> Both 
> proposed solutions require that the operator be present during the roast
> extension. The more extreme solution that I proposed, requiring that 
> the operator hold down a button to keep the roast going, would force the
> operator to be active for every second of roast extension.
> I would see that working as 
> -roast time close to end, but roast incomplete
> -any time before the end of the roast, the operator presses and holds "keep roasting" button
> -roast
> time hits the end, but since the operator is pressing "keep roasting" 
> cool down does not initiate (perhaps timer continues to count down 
> backwards past zero)
> -roast reaches the operator's desired level
> -operator  releases the "keep roasting" button
> -cool down cycle initiates
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> Mike Kaericher
> 
> --- On Wed, 7/28/10, Behmor Sales-Joe Behm <sales at behmor.com> wrote:
> 
> From: Behmor Sales-Joe Behm <sales at behmor.com>
> Subject: Re: Contact form
> To: mike_kae at yahoo.com
> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 9:22 AM
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Thank
> you for the email and suggestions. The issue you raise is something I 
> think about weekly if not almost daily because I understand the 
> frustration associated with the "max time allowed" part of the Behmor. 
> It's a wise safety feature that also creates issues in some instances.
> 
> As
> I said I think of this often and dicsuss it with the factory engineers 
> each time I'm over along with in many of the email correspondences I 
> send with the assembly plant. They  understand and as do we the 
> frustration, but the fear is if we add more time someone will assuredly 
> just add the extra time on in the beginning and walk away. It's 
> unfortunately already happened with not majorly bad results but results 
> bad enough (smokey bean ignition etc). The truly sad part is in almost 
> every case where this has occurred invariably the finger of blame gets 
> pointed in our direction as being at fault. 
> 
> Truthfully t's all 
> quite frustrating because I want every Behmor 1600 owner to get the 
> maximum they can from the roaster. Unfortunately as with too many things
> in our lives, the actions of a very small minority who ignore all 
> safety features, rules and suggestions hurt those who follow all 
> suggestions etc.
> 
> At this time I am working with the engineers to 
> find a safe solution that allows users such as yourself to responsibly 
> add more time while also insuring as much as humanly  possible the safe 
> use by others who aren't  as attuned to the situation.
> 
> Thank you again and please stay in touch... and rest assured we are working the issue. 
> 
> Best regards
> Joe Behm
> 
> 
> Go to www.behmor.com/manual.html for the latest updates and manual revisions
> 
> The
> information contained in this communication is Privileged and 
> Confidential and shall not be disseminated, distributed, copied or in 
> any form supplied to others without the express permission of the 
> sender.
> 
> It is intended only for the use of the addressee, and the
> privileges are not waived by virtue of this having been sent by e-mail .
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Mike Kaericher" [mike_kae at yahoo.com]
> Date: 07/27/2010 01:28 PM
> To: sales at behmor.com
> Subject: Re: Contact form
> 
>          Name:    Mike Kaericher  
>       Address:    1688 E Shore Dr, Maplewood, MN 55109  
>       E-mail:    mike_kae at yahoo.com  
>        Reasons:     General Inquiry  
>       Phone:      
>  
>     Comments:             Hi, Could you please consider an update for 
> the Behmor that would allow extending roast time in the event that a 
> roast is not quite complete?  I frequently find that an 7-8oz batch can 
> come up short on 1/2lb P3.  One solution would be for me to go to a 1lb 
> setting, however that would draw out the ramp up.  It would be better to
> simply add more time at the end. I would envision simply being allowed 
> to add 30  seconds to the roast during the last 10 seconds before the 
> cool cycle.  Either that or something like the roast won\'t stop as long
> as the user holds a button down.  Either of these solutions would 
> prevent users from simply setting excessively long roast times while 
> providing the flexibility to to conscientiously increase time when 
> needed.   Ideally this change could be done with a user swappable 
> control panel, but I would upgrade my roaster if I could not manually 
> add the new feature.  Thank you, Mike Kaericher            
> 
> 
> 
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