[Homeroast] (resending )The Dreaded Starbucks

Greg Hollrigel ghollrigel at gmail.com
Sun Mar 7 18:26:01 CST 2010


That's what I was going to say, too.  Burnt coffee and scalded milk.

Greg 

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Ryan:

There coffee sucks. It tastes like old dirt. Most is burnt beyond belief.
People will drink anything to get their morning/afternoon or evening hit of
caffeine.

Clearly that does not make them coffee connoisseurs.

Not that I am but I do homeroast so for sure mine is better then any
commercial coffee, period.

ginny


Hell I can get a pound of green beans from SM for 4 and change bucks; why on
earth would I pay 3.75 plus for a cup of horrid h2o with color!!

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Doug Hoople <doughoople at gmail.com> wrote:

> For me, Ryan, it's pretty simple. *$ established dark French roast as 
> the national standard, and that's a sin for which I won't forgive 
> them. They also chased a lot of independents out of business.
>
> My start in drinking specialty coffee came in 1976 at the single 
> Harvard Square location of Coffee Connection. What a revelation. 
> Coffee Connection later expanded and was eventually bought by *$, but 
> they were a small, independent coffee outlet at the time.  They were 
> the first place where I discovered fresh-roasted, fresh-ground,
single-origin coffees.
>
> For a decade after that, I'd seek out coffee purveyors in Boston and 
> New York, gravitating mostly toward African coffees, especially 
> Kenyan, roasted somewhere around C+, and the Celebes-Kalossi (later 
> Sulawesi). McNulty's in Greenwich Village comes to mind, as does 
> Gilley's in Yorkville, although I can't recall ever being really bowled
away by either of their offerings.
> There was a little shop in Westport, CT, along my long commute in the 
> mid-90s, that turned out the most amazing African roasts, and I'd stop 
> there religiously for a year or so. I wish I could remember the name 
> of the place, but it's not there anymore.
>
> When I moved out to the west coast in '98, it was mostly Peet's and 
> *$, with an occasional espresso shop like Cafe Trieste constituting 
> the alternative (Trieste, btw, made lovely coffee at the time). It 
> took me a while to realize it, but I couldn't buy my beloved African 
> coffees any more. They tasted like nothing, roast to a deep, oily 
> French roast. The Africans, in particular, lose their identity at 
> darker roast levels.
>
> It took 10 years and the discovery of SM to finally started drinking 
> coffee the way I liked it again, and the way it used to be served 
> commonly before the ascendancy of the big guys.
>
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Ryan M. Ward
> <silvercro_magnon at hotmail.com>wrote:
>
> >
> > I am resending this, I have noticed that my posts have not been 
> > going through.
> >
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> > Ryan M. Ward
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> > Subject: The Dreaded Starbucks
> > Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:44:42 +0000
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> > This may or may not be considered off topic but, I am curious. I see 
> > a lot of people on this this that seem to look down upon Stabucks, I 
> > am curious as to why. Starbucks seem to get a lot of negative 
> > attention in the Speciality Coffee Industry in spite of many of
> the
> > positive contributions that they have made. I was wondering what 
> > people's opinions are on Starbucks and why.
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