[Homeroast] Finished roast color coding relevance > Is it just me?
yakster at gmail.com
Sun Mar 7 15:04:26 CST 2010
Not so sure I'd make so strong a case, especially on occasion when I
roast over open fire.
Pre-roasted and ground coffee is still a relatively new thing, and
geared more toward convenience and profit then taste.
You've got to pick and choose what you take, it's not all an improvement.
On 3/7/10, Ryan M. Ward <silvercro_magnon at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Well, not to stir the pot here,
> I think the commercial coffee world does deserve its due credit here.
> Although this list is a homeroast list, there is not escaping the influence
> that the commerical world has played in the development of coffee roasting.
> We may not always agree with some specific influences, but where would we be
> without the industry.
> The industry, I feel, plays the role of refining the standards and
> procedures and acts as the first market which creates the demand for new
> innovative roasting equipment. Do you think we would have a HotTop roaster
> today if it wern't for commercial grade drum roasters to model it after?
> Would we have the understanding of the roasting process that we do if it
> were not for the studies of the food scientists motivated by the industry?
> Anyway, my two cents worth... I need to run off and think about Riemannian
> Manifolds for a little while now.
> Ryan M. Ward
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>> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 11:08:15 -0800
>> From: theotherjo at gmail.com
>> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Finished roast color coding relevance > Is it
>> just me?
>> Sorry about all the perceived implications RayO. What's it take to wake
>> sleeping bear RayO?
>> Now I know. Good to hear from you even if it's a good ole' RayO literary
>> homeroast spanking.
>> Very sorry to offend anyone here or raise a flame flag. Seriously not my
>> Ray, I agree this list has nothing to do with the commercial coffee world
>> and we both know miKe quite well. The "Commercial Coffee World" is no
>> so start the journey that we are all on but coffee wisdom lies in many
>> corners of our coffee past.
>> I hope if I find a really good deal on an Agtron you don't give me a nic
>> name of boyd. I'm just a little science guy who can't help himself. I want
>> to know what I'm not supposed to know and taste everyone's coffee no
>> what they roast the beans with.
>> Ok, back to lurkdom I slip, have a great cup of your homeroast today.
>> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:53 AM, <raymanowen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > It is not a requirement of this list that each person parrot the
>> > politically
>> > correct palaver as stated by anyone else in the whole world. What's the
>> > advantage in that?
>> > The implication of:
>> > "What do you mean some validity?"
>> > miKe just tried to [convince] you that in the commercial coffee world...
>> > Implies the art of roasting goes so far and no further; personal
>> > advancement
>> > ceases to exist.
>> > *WHAT* in Blazes does this list have to do with the commercial coffee
>> > world?
>> > NOTHING, and miKe, of all people is the antithesis of Big Coffee.
>> > What is it about miKe that makes you think that his hobby or enterprise
>> > is
>> > based on the archaic and bearded Agtron tile inadequacies, or any other
>> > facet of the commercial coffee world? Isn't that what primarily drove us
>> > all
>> > to roasting and brewing for ourselves?
>> > The Commercial Coffee World- home of Foulgers, and the hazmat blends of
>> > *$.
>> > Since FC roasted coffee is not a primary color perceived by the human
>> > eye,
>> > it can't be directly quantified. The credulity required to standardize
>> > on a
>> > quality rendered differently by the rods and cones in every human retina
>> > is
>> > on the same page as "Human hearing is from 20hz - 20Khz "
>> > The Cosar and Macbeth densitometers can resolve Cyan, Magenta, Yellow
>> > and
>> > Black colors for critical graphics work, and can be found online for far
>> > less than their original prices. In the 3-D mode, they could read coffee
>> > beans, and 8000K super high intensity LED's could replace the
>> > incandescent
>> > light sources.
>> > In the roaster control loop, a cheap densitometer or colorimeter would
>> > allow
>> > a roast degree to be set to a specific number.
>> > Cheers and Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
>> > --
>> > Persist in old ways; expect different results - suborn Insanity...
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