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>>     1. Vintage coffee ad (Phil Palmintere)
>>     2. Re: Indian Coffee (Yakster)
>>     3. Re: Vintage coffee ad (John A C Despres)
>>     4.  what exactly are "quakers"? (Joe)
>>     5.  recognizing quakers? (Joe)
>>     6. Re: Indian Coffee (rosevilleroaster at aol.com)
>>     7. Re: recognizing quakers? (Josh Schwartz)
>>     8. Re: recognizing quakers? (John A C Despres)
>>     9. Re: what exactly are "quakers"? (Allon Stern)
>>    10. Re: what exactly are "quakers"? (miKe mcKoffee)
>>    11. Re: Vintage coffee ad (Sandy Andina)
>>    12. Re: what exactly are "quakers"? (Martin Maney)
>>    13. Re: what exactly are "quakers"? (raymanowen at gmail.com)
>>    14. Re: Vintage coffee ad (Tom Ulmer)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:02:39 -0700
>> From: "Phil Palmintere"<phil.palmintere at gmail.com>
>> To: "'A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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>> Subject: [Homeroast] Vintage coffee ad
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>> A vintage coffee ad -- did they really advertise like this?
>>
>> http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1291
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:33:08 +0200
>> From: Yakster<yakster at gmail.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Indian Coffee
>> Message-ID:
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>> Frank,
>>
>> I never did find out if there was any coffee grown near Hyderabad and 
>> didn't
>> really even do any sightseeing (not even making it to Charminar) so 
>> I'm not
>> much help.
>>
>> Enjoy the trip, though and let us know what you find.
>>
>> -Chris
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Frank Parth<fparth at mac.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> Chris,
>>> My wife and I are traveling to Hyderabad at the end of December to go 
>>> to a
>>> wedding. Can you point to any coffee plantations in the area? If we have
>>> some free time we'll go exploring.
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    I was in Hyderabad in the end of 2008 and was thinking that it 
>>> would be
>>>>   great to check out Indian coffee and maybe get some monsooned 
>>>> Malabar,
>>>> but
>>>>   didn't have time to venture out.
>>>>
>>>>   Now I'm in Milan and it looks like I may not have time to venture 
>>>> out to
>>>>   find a good coffee bar, but there's hope yet, I may have to stay 
>>>> through
>>>> the
>>>>   weekend as the equipment is still stuck in customs.
>>>>
>>>>   -Chris
>>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:27:39 -0400
>> From: John A C Despres<johndespres at gmail.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Vintage coffee ad
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>> Yes indeed they did advertise this way. There was a time in this country
>> when coffee was to be the best possible on the table at home and there 
>> would
>> be heck to pay if it wasn't the best possible.
>>
>> In 1929 Chase&  Sanborn began putting dates on their cans with the
>> advertisement "It's dated" supposedly assuring Chase&  Sanborn's 
>> freshness.
>>
>> This type of ad from Chase&  Sanborn began in the depression which 
>> provides
>> alarming evidence that wife battering was the stuff of comedy during the
>> depression - especially if the husband didn't like his coffee. And it
>> continued... "To the moon, Alice, to the moon!" merely hints at it, 
>> but it
>> was and still is considered funny.
>>
>> Uncommon Grounds by Mark Pendergast - (a killer history of coffee, by the
>> way) Here it is:
>> http://books.google.com/books?id=Da_d7SKHVGIC&pg=PA202&lpg=PA202&dq=depression+era+coffee+ads&source=bl&ots=IP3GvTHlqh&sig=L9cid0JpYNIT5F-I5m3naE9Ems8&hl=en&ei=nf9RTL27A8K88gbU87yQBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=depression%20era%20coffee%20ads&f=false 
>>
>>
>> High comedy there... Ugh.
>>
>> Violence continues in coffee ads - This is Jim Henson's work.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ky7g1lgTwc&feature=player_embedded#!<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ky7g1lgTwc&feature=player_embedded#%21> 
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Phil Palmintere
>> <phil.palmintere at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> A vintage coffee ad -- did they really advertise like this?
>>>
>>> http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1291
>>>
>>>
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:43:00 -0400
>> From: Joe<charliebrown at nc.rr.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
>>     list,    available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"
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>> Subject: [Homeroast]  what exactly are "quakers"?
>> Message-ID:<4C470774.1080901 at nc.rr.com>
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>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm fairly new to the coffee roasting myself and so far am really
>> enjoying learning all about the bean and the process of roasting. I'm
>> curious though about one thing I see mentioned on the SM site
>> frequently. What exactly are quakers (and the other ones supposed to
>> remove) and how does one identify them? I looked at the glossary on the
>> SM site and it wasn't much help to me. I can spot ones that have a
>> little bit of the bean missing, which I'm guessing might be bites and
>> can also spot a few that aren't quite as roasted as others. Since I'm
>> using a poppery and teaching myself how to make an even roast, I'm
>> encountering quite a few that aren't as roasted so I've been hesitant on
>> discarding them. Any pointers on how to identify which should be removed
>> would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Have A Great Day,
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:44:45 -0400
>> From: Joe<charliebrown at nc.rr.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
>>     list,    available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"
>>     <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
>> Subject: [Homeroast]  recognizing quakers?
>> Message-ID:<4C476A4D.5050902 at nc.rr.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm fairly new to the coffee roasting myself and so far am really
>> enjoying learning all about the bean and the process of roasting. I'm
>> curious though about one thing I see mentioned on the SM site
>> frequently. What exactly are quakers (and the other beans one is
>> supposed to remove) and how does one identify them? I looked at the
>> glossary on the SM site and it wasn't much help to me. I can spot ones
>> that have a little bit of the bean missing, which I'm guessing might be
>> bites and can also spot a few that aren't quite as roasted as others.
>> Since I'm using a poppery and teaching myself how to make an even roast,
>> I'm encountering quite a few that aren't as roasted so I've been
>> hesitant on discarding them. Any pointers on how to identify which
>> should be removed would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Have A Great Day,
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:41:59 -0700
>> From: "rosevilleroaster at aol.com"<rosevilleroaster at aol.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
>>     list,    available at
>>     http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"<homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com> 
>>
>>     
>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Indian Coffee
>> Message-ID:<a658d2af-2dc5-497d-88d7-24bcd27de5dd at blur>
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>>
>> Try "Josuma" Dr. Joseph John sells "India" coffee. @  650.366.5453. 
>> Tell him
>> RosevilleRoaster referred You.
>>
>> Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
>>
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: silas coelho<silascoelho1 at gmail.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this 
>> list,
>>     available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"
>> <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
>> Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 17:15:56 GMT+00:00
>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Indian Coffee
>>
>> I will be traveling to India in mid august (Tamil Nadu-Pondicherry,
>> Maharashtra-Pune and Delhi), and I want to visit some coffee farms 
>> there. I
>> know that they do have Pulneys ,Sheveroys and Nilgiris plantations there,
>> but I'm not sure how accesible are the farms there, to be able to visit
>> then.
>>
>> Anyone had any experience with India coffees?
>>
>> Grato/Regards
>> Silas
>>
>> Contritionem praecedit superbia,
>> et ante ruinam exaltatio spiritus (Prov 16:18)
>>
>> http://silasmcoelho.com/
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:51:42 -0700
>> From: Josh Schwartz<veganjosh at gmail.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] recognizing quakers?
>> Message-ID:
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>>
>> Quakers can only be identified post-roast, and at that point they are 
>> much
>> lighter in color than other roasted beans.  If you're roasting in a 
>> popper
>> and getting very uneven roasts, you're right that it might be hard to 
>> pick
>> them out, but you can't really go wrong if you just pick out all the 
>> beans
>> that look way too light.  There's actually a pretty nice thread on the 
>> forum
>> with some good pictures of the quakers pulled out of an Ethiopia:
>> http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1137
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Joe<charliebrown at nc.rr.com>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm fairly new to the coffee roasting myself and so far am really 
>>> enjoying
>>> learning all about the bean and the process of roasting. I'm curious 
>>> though
>>> about one thing I see mentioned on the SM site frequently. What 
>>> exactly are
>>> quakers (and the other beans one is supposed to remove) and how does one
>>> identify them? I looked at the glossary on the SM site and it wasn't 
>>> much
>>> help to me. I can spot ones that have a little bit of the bean missing,
>>> which I'm guessing might be bites and can also spot a few that aren't 
>>> quite
>>> as roasted as others. Since I'm using a poppery and teaching myself 
>>> how to
>>> make an even roast, I'm encountering quite a few that aren't as 
>>> roasted so
>>> I've been hesitant on discarding them. Any pointers on how to 
>>> identify which
>>> should be removed would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> Have A Great Day,
>>> Joe
>>>
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>>
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>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:40:14 -0400
>> From: John A C Despres<johndespres at gmail.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
>>     list,    available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"
>>     <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] recognizing quakers?
>> Message-ID:
>>     <AANLkTinEoyaT6XAbRmzEXLohGPQMaeHM_vP9Fi9P-LyS at mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> Hi, Joe, and welcome to home roasting.
>>
>> I don't typically cull my roasts after roasting. However, if I notice 
>> gray
>> beans, I do toss those out. For the most part, Sweet Maria's beans are
>> pretty darn defect free, so don't sweat it too much.
>>
>> Now then, your roasts from Ethiopia will tend to be a little more 
>> uneven, or
>> any dry process beans for that matter, I think... Yemen beans may look a
>> little rangy, but enjoy them as is.
>>
>> My little poem to help me - "If they're gray, throw 'em away. If their
>> brown, drink 'em down". Too much culling will change the 
>> characteristics of
>> that particular bean in the cup.
>>
>> If you're roasting beans from Sweet Maria's, roast&  drink. If your beans
>> are from elsewhere, you may need to do more pre-roast culling of 
>> defects as
>> the quality may not be as high.
>>
>> Once you're coffee is roasted and you see something suspicious, eat 
>> the bean
>> and pay attention to the color. Very light brown will probably be bitter,
>> gray could very well be sour and other slighter darker beans could be 
>> sweet
>> and fruity. Learn the colors associated with the flavors and you'll 
>> decide
>> which to keep after a while.
>>
>> My 2 cents worth.
>>
>> Mostly have fun and keep the questions coming..
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:02:57 -0400
>> From: Allon Stern<allon at radioactive.org>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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>>     <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] what exactly are "quakers"?
>> Message-ID:<759BE326-6F2A-4786-9DCF-68F389CBE740 at radioactive.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Joe wrote:
>>>   What exactly are quakers (and the other ones supposed to remove) 
>>> and how does one identify them?
>>
>> More than you could ever want to know:
>>
>> http://www.roastmagazine.com/backissues/janfeb2008/detectingdefects.html
>>
>> -
>> allon
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:46:52 -0700
>> From: "miKe mcKoffee"<mcKona at comcast.net>
>> To: "'A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for
>>     thislist,    available at 
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>>     <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] what exactly are "quakers"?
>> Message-ID:<F18FA43E3D3D467B880339EA1F6BE925 at mdmlaptop>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Funny, I had just copied that same link to paste...
>>
>> miKe
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
>>> [mailto:homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Allon Stern
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 5:03 PM
>>> To: A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules
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>>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] what exactly are "quakers"?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Joe wrote:
>>>>   What exactly are quakers (and the other ones supposed to
>>> remove) and how does one identify them?
>>>
>>> More than you could ever want to know:
>>>
>>> http://www.roastmagazine.com/backissues/janfeb2008/detectingde
>>> fects.html
>>>
>>> -
>>> allon
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:32:28 -0500
>> From: Sandy Andina<sandraandina at mac.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
>>     list,    available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"
>>     <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Vintage coffee ad
>> Message-ID:<89719244-7F0E-4D07-8623-516CBEEB535E at mac.com>
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>>
>> There was also "POW--right in the kisser."  The episodes always ended 
>> with Ralph telling Alice, "Baby, you're the greatest!"  We gave it no 
>> mind back in the Fifties (since Ralph never followed through), but in 
>> retrospect it seems distressingly similar to battered women's 
>> rationalizations for not pressing charges or leaving ("He really loves 
>> me" or "he didn't mean it, and he promises he won't do it again").  
>> Both men and women (and law enforcement) have evolved since then.
>> On Jul 29, 2010, at 5:27 PM, John A C Despres wrote:
>>
>>> This type of ad from Chase&  Sanborn began in the depression which 
>>> provides
>>> alarming evidence that wife battering was the stuff of comedy during the
>>> depression - especially if the husband didn't like his coffee. And it
>>> continued... "To the moon, Alice, to the moon!" merely hints at it, 
>>> but it
>>> was and still is considered funny.
>>
>> Peace&  song,
>> Sandy
>> www.sandyandina.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:14:54 -0500
>> From: Martin Maney<maney at two14.net>
>> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] what exactly are "quakers"?
>> Message-ID:<20100730071454.GE6393 at furrr.two14.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 06:46:52PM -0700, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
>>> Funny, I had just copied that same link to paste...
>>
>> And I had just posted a crude pictorial of quakers (and maybe some that
>> aren't technically quakers: the recurring problem, are these defects or
>> just the light end of the bell curve?) from a recent roast batch of
>> Shoye Union:
>>
>> http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1137&start=6
>>
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