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Michael Irrera mirrera at me.com
Fri Jul 30 12:44:13 CDT 2010


a swing and a miss...

-AdkMike

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>> Today's Topics:
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>>    1. Vintage coffee ad (Phil Palmintere)
>>    2. Re: Indian Coffee (Yakster)
>>    3. Re: Vintage coffee ad (John A C Despres)
>>    4.  what exactly are "quakers"? (Joe)
>>    5.  recognizing quakers? (Joe)
>>    6. Re: Indian Coffee (rosevilleroaster at aol.com)
>>    7. Re: recognizing quakers? (Josh Schwartz)
>>    8. Re: recognizing quakers? (John A C Despres)
>>    9. Re: what exactly are "quakers"? (Allon Stern)
>>   10. Re: what exactly are "quakers"? (miKe mcKoffee)
>>   11. Re: Vintage coffee ad (Sandy Andina)
>>   12. Re: what exactly are "quakers"? (Martin Maney)
>>   13. Re: what exactly are "quakers"? (raymanowen at gmail.com)
>>   14. Re: Vintage coffee ad (Tom Ulmer)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:02:39 -0700
>> From: "Phil Palmintere"<phil.palmintere at gmail.com>
>> To: "'A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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>> Subject: [Homeroast] Vintage coffee ad
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>> A vintage coffee ad -- did they really advertise like this?
>> 
>> http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1291
>> 
>> 
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:33:08 +0200
>> From: Yakster<yakster at gmail.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Indian Coffee
>> Message-ID:
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>> Frank,
>> 
>> I never did find out if there was any coffee grown near Hyderabad and didn't
>> really even do any sightseeing (not even making it to Charminar) so I'm not
>> much help.
>> 
>> Enjoy the trip, though and let us know what you find.
>> 
>> -Chris
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Frank Parth<fparth at mac.com>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Chris,
>>> My wife and I are traveling to Hyderabad at the end of December to go to a
>>> wedding. Can you point to any coffee plantations in the area? If we have
>>> some free time we'll go exploring.
>>> 
>>> Frank
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>   I was in Hyderabad in the end of 2008 and was thinking that it would be
>>>>  great to check out Indian coffee and maybe get some monsooned Malabar,
>>>> but
>>>>  didn't have time to venture out.
>>>> 
>>>>  Now I'm in Milan and it looks like I may not have time to venture out to
>>>>  find a good coffee bar, but there's hope yet, I may have to stay through
>>>> the
>>>>  weekend as the equipment is still stuck in customs.
>>>> 
>>>>  -Chris
>>>> 
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:27:39 -0400
>> From: John A C Despres<johndespres at gmail.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Vintage coffee ad
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>> Yes indeed they did advertise this way. There was a time in this country
>> when coffee was to be the best possible on the table at home and there would
>> be heck to pay if it wasn't the best possible.
>> 
>> In 1929 Chase&  Sanborn began putting dates on their cans with the
>> advertisement "It's dated" supposedly assuring Chase&  Sanborn's freshness.
>> 
>> This type of ad from Chase&  Sanborn began in the depression which provides
>> alarming evidence that wife battering was the stuff of comedy during the
>> depression - especially if the husband didn't like his coffee. And it
>> continued... "To the moon, Alice, to the moon!" merely hints at it, but it
>> was and still is considered funny.
>> 
>> Uncommon Grounds by Mark Pendergast - (a killer history of coffee, by the
>> way) Here it is:
>> http://books.google.com/books?id=Da_d7SKHVGIC&pg=PA202&lpg=PA202&dq=depression+era+coffee+ads&source=bl&ots=IP3GvTHlqh&sig=L9cid0JpYNIT5F-I5m3naE9Ems8&hl=en&ei=nf9RTL27A8K88gbU87yQBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=depression%20era%20coffee%20ads&f=false
>> 
>> High comedy there... Ugh.
>> 
>> Violence continues in coffee ads - This is Jim Henson's work.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ky7g1lgTwc&feature=player_embedded#!<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ky7g1lgTwc&feature=player_embedded#%21>
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Phil Palmintere
>> <phil.palmintere at gmail.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> A vintage coffee ad -- did they really advertise like this?
>>> 
>>> http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1291
>>> 
>>> 
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>> Message: 4
>> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:43:00 -0400
>> From: Joe<charliebrown at nc.rr.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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>> Subject: [Homeroast]  what exactly are "quakers"?
>> Message-ID:<4C470774.1080901 at nc.rr.com>
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>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm fairly new to the coffee roasting myself and so far am really
>> enjoying learning all about the bean and the process of roasting. I'm
>> curious though about one thing I see mentioned on the SM site
>> frequently. What exactly are quakers (and the other ones supposed to
>> remove) and how does one identify them? I looked at the glossary on the
>> SM site and it wasn't much help to me. I can spot ones that have a
>> little bit of the bean missing, which I'm guessing might be bites and
>> can also spot a few that aren't quite as roasted as others. Since I'm
>> using a poppery and teaching myself how to make an even roast, I'm
>> encountering quite a few that aren't as roasted so I've been hesitant on
>> discarding them. Any pointers on how to identify which should be removed
>> would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Have A Great Day,
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:44:45 -0400
>> From: Joe<charliebrown at nc.rr.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
>> 	list,	available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"
>> 	<homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
>> Subject: [Homeroast]  recognizing quakers?
>> Message-ID:<4C476A4D.5050902 at nc.rr.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I'm fairly new to the coffee roasting myself and so far am really
>> enjoying learning all about the bean and the process of roasting. I'm
>> curious though about one thing I see mentioned on the SM site
>> frequently. What exactly are quakers (and the other beans one is
>> supposed to remove) and how does one identify them? I looked at the
>> glossary on the SM site and it wasn't much help to me. I can spot ones
>> that have a little bit of the bean missing, which I'm guessing might be
>> bites and can also spot a few that aren't quite as roasted as others.
>> Since I'm using a poppery and teaching myself how to make an even roast,
>> I'm encountering quite a few that aren't as roasted so I've been
>> hesitant on discarding them. Any pointers on how to identify which
>> should be removed would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Have A Great Day,
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 10:41:59 -0700
>> From: "rosevilleroaster at aol.com"<rosevilleroaster at aol.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
>> 	list,	available at
>> 	http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"<homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
>> 	
>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Indian Coffee
>> Message-ID:<a658d2af-2dc5-497d-88d7-24bcd27de5dd at blur>
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>> 
>> Try "Josuma" Dr. Joseph John sells "India" coffee. @  650.366.5453. Tell him
>> RosevilleRoaster referred You.
>> 
>> Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
>> 
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: silas coelho<silascoelho1 at gmail.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this list,
>> 	available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"
>> <homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
>> Sent: Wed, Jul 28, 2010 17:15:56 GMT+00:00
>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Indian Coffee
>> 
>> I will be traveling to India in mid august (Tamil Nadu-Pondicherry,
>> Maharashtra-Pune and Delhi), and I want to visit some coffee farms there. I
>> know that they do have Pulneys ,Sheveroys and Nilgiris plantations there,
>> but I'm not sure how accesible are the farms there, to be able to visit
>> then.
>> 
>> Anyone had any experience with India coffees?
>> 
>> Grato/Regards
>> Silas
>> 
>> Contritionem praecedit superbia,
>> et ante ruinam exaltatio spiritus (Prov 16:18)
>> 
>> http://silasmcoelho.com/
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>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:51:42 -0700
>> From: Josh Schwartz<veganjosh at gmail.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] recognizing quakers?
>> Message-ID:
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>> 
>> Quakers can only be identified post-roast, and at that point they are much
>> lighter in color than other roasted beans.  If you're roasting in a popper
>> and getting very uneven roasts, you're right that it might be hard to pick
>> them out, but you can't really go wrong if you just pick out all the beans
>> that look way too light.  There's actually a pretty nice thread on the forum
>> with some good pictures of the quakers pulled out of an Ethiopia:
>> http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1137
>> 
>> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Joe<charliebrown at nc.rr.com>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I'm fairly new to the coffee roasting myself and so far am really enjoying
>>> learning all about the bean and the process of roasting. I'm curious though
>>> about one thing I see mentioned on the SM site frequently. What exactly are
>>> quakers (and the other beans one is supposed to remove) and how does one
>>> identify them? I looked at the glossary on the SM site and it wasn't much
>>> help to me. I can spot ones that have a little bit of the bean missing,
>>> which I'm guessing might be bites and can also spot a few that aren't quite
>>> as roasted as others. Since I'm using a poppery and teaching myself how to
>>> make an even roast, I'm encountering quite a few that aren't as roasted so
>>> I've been hesitant on discarding them. Any pointers on how to identify which
>>> should be removed would be greatly appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Have A Great Day,
>>> Joe
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 8
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:40:14 -0400
>> From: John A C Despres<johndespres at gmail.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
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>> 	<homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] recognizing quakers?
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<AANLkTinEoyaT6XAbRmzEXLohGPQMaeHM_vP9Fi9P-LyS at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> 
>> Hi, Joe, and welcome to home roasting.
>> 
>> I don't typically cull my roasts after roasting. However, if I notice gray
>> beans, I do toss those out. For the most part, Sweet Maria's beans are
>> pretty darn defect free, so don't sweat it too much.
>> 
>> Now then, your roasts from Ethiopia will tend to be a little more uneven, or
>> any dry process beans for that matter, I think... Yemen beans may look a
>> little rangy, but enjoy them as is.
>> 
>> My little poem to help me - "If they're gray, throw 'em away. If their
>> brown, drink 'em down". Too much culling will change the characteristics of
>> that particular bean in the cup.
>> 
>> If you're roasting beans from Sweet Maria's, roast&  drink. If your beans
>> are from elsewhere, you may need to do more pre-roast culling of defects as
>> the quality may not be as high.
>> 
>> Once you're coffee is roasted and you see something suspicious, eat the bean
>> and pay attention to the color. Very light brown will probably be bitter,
>> gray could very well be sour and other slighter darker beans could be sweet
>> and fruity. Learn the colors associated with the flavors and you'll decide
>> which to keep after a while.
>> 
>> My 2 cents worth.
>> 
>> Mostly have fun and keep the questions coming..
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 9
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:02:57 -0400
>> From: Allon Stern<allon at radioactive.org>
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>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] what exactly are "quakers"?
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>> 
>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Joe wrote:
>>>  What exactly are quakers (and the other ones supposed to remove) and how does one identify them?
>> 
>> More than you could ever want to know:
>> 
>> http://www.roastmagazine.com/backissues/janfeb2008/detectingdefects.html
>> 
>> -
>> allon
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 10
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 18:46:52 -0700
>> From: "miKe mcKoffee"<mcKona at comcast.net>
>> To: "'A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for
>> 	thislist,	available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html'"
>> 	<homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] what exactly are "quakers"?
>> Message-ID:<F18FA43E3D3D467B880339EA1F6BE925 at mdmlaptop>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> Funny, I had just copied that same link to paste...
>> 
>> miKe
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
>>> [mailto:homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Allon Stern
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 5:03 PM
>>> To: A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules
>>> for this list,available at
>>> http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html
>>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] what exactly are "quakers"?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:43 AM, Joe wrote:
>>>>  What exactly are quakers (and the other ones supposed to
>>> remove) and how does one identify them?
>>> 
>>> More than you could ever want to know:
>>> 
>>> http://www.roastmagazine.com/backissues/janfeb2008/detectingde
>>> fects.html
>>> 
>>> -
>>> allon
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>> Message: 11
>> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 22:32:28 -0500
>> From: Sandy Andina<sandraandina at mac.com>
>> To: "A list to discuss home coffee roasting. There are rules for this
>> 	list,	available at http://www.sweetmarias.com/maillistinfo.html"
>> 	<homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Vintage coffee ad
>> Message-ID:<89719244-7F0E-4D07-8623-516CBEEB535E at mac.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> There was also "POW--right in the kisser."  The episodes always ended with Ralph telling Alice, "Baby, you're the greatest!"  We gave it no mind back in the Fifties (since Ralph never followed through), but in retrospect it seems distressingly similar to battered women's rationalizations for not pressing charges or leaving ("He really loves me" or "he didn't mean it, and he promises he won't do it again").  Both men and women (and law enforcement) have evolved since then.
>> On Jul 29, 2010, at 5:27 PM, John A C Despres wrote:
>> 
>>> This type of ad from Chase&  Sanborn began in the depression which provides
>>> alarming evidence that wife battering was the stuff of comedy during the
>>> depression - especially if the husband didn't like his coffee. And it
>>> continued... "To the moon, Alice, to the moon!" merely hints at it, but it
>>> was and still is considered funny.
>> 
>> Peace&  song,
>> Sandy
>> www.sandyandina.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 12
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:14:54 -0500
>> From: Martin Maney<maney at two14.net>
>> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] what exactly are "quakers"?
>> Message-ID:<20100730071454.GE6393 at furrr.two14.net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 06:46:52PM -0700, miKe mcKoffee wrote:
>>> Funny, I had just copied that same link to paste...
>> 
>> And I had just posted a crude pictorial of quakers (and maybe some that
>> aren't technically quakers: the recurring problem, are these defects or
>> just the light end of the bell curve?) from a recent roast batch of
>> Shoye Union:
>> 
>> http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1137&start=6
>> 
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