[Homeroast] was Espresso advice *HiJacked* now presurized portafilters

Mike Koenig koenig.mike at gmail.com
Sat Jan 9 11:56:45 CST 2010


Michael,

This was >10 years ago,  but I was able to order it directly from Saeco.
I'm not sure if they still offer it, but a quick google search shows a
number of vendors that do, (but for a rather high price).  It might be worth
it to contact Saeco and see if they still sell it.

--mike


On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 11:36 AM, michael brown <disracer at msn.com> wrote:

>
> Mike,
>
>
>
> Where did you order your non pressurized portafilter?  The guy at this
> website is trying to tell me that pressurized is the way to go.  I played
> with it this morning, no tamping, and the shot was very thin with thin
> crema.
>
>
>
> Michael B
>
> > From: koenig.mike at gmail.com
> > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 10:53:02 -0500
> > To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > Subject: Re: [Homeroast] was Espresso advice *HiJacked* now presurized
> portafilters
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > One of my previous machines was a Saeco, which came with the pressurized
> > portafilter, which at the time, had a valve that you could open or close
> by
> > moving the handle left or right. It could make crema from whatever I put
> in
> > there, old beans, sawdust, cat litter..etc..
> >
> > At the time I wasn't yet roasting, but was using relatively fresh beans
> > from a mail-order roaster. I would always get somewhat thin tasting shots
> > using the pressurized device, and got a good amount of improvement when I
> > ordered the non-pressurized one.
> >
> > At the time I believed that good crema was the key to good espresso, and
> > struggling to get good crema on my shots (as opposed to the sandy colored
> > crema that evaporated quickly from the pressurized thingy) was what
> > eventually led me to roasting at home.
> >
> > --mike
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:09 AM, michael brown <disracer at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Okay, after Sandra's comments about pressurized portafilters on
> Estro/Saeco
> > > machines i had to do some research and this is what i found:
> > > http://www.partsguru.com/SaecoRioProfi.html I had no idea that i had
> been
> > > using a "pressurized portafilter" this whole time. I emailed the
> contact of
> > > this website (before i knew of this page) and redirected me to the page
> i
> > > just linked. It suggested not tamping at all! I thought, ridiculous! So
> i
> > > tried it, and had surprising results. I need to play with it some more
> but
> > > it's 11pm and i don't need to pull anymore shots. I have to be at work
> at
> > > 8am.
> > >
> > > Anyone else have any experience with pressurized portafilters? He
> didn't
> > > have an owners manual for my exact machine. I have an estro model 410,
> SIN
> > > 007. But the link to the "226552008 Portafilter diagram Starbucks model
> > > Via Venezia" diagram matches my portafilter exactly. Now
> > > i'm all shook up, thinking i've been pulling shots WAY WRONG (at least
> as
> > > how this machine was intended) the whole time i've had this machine
> [over a
> > > year]. And by the way, i'd been able to pull what i've thought were
> decent
> > > shots my way (dosing, knocking, tamp, knock, tamp, sometimes a third
> knock
> > > and tamp).
> > >
> > > Michael B
> > >
> > >
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