[Homeroast] was Espresso advice *HiJacked* now presurized portafilters

michael brown disracer at msn.com
Sat Jan 9 10:36:21 CST 2010


Mike,

 

Where did you order your non pressurized portafilter?  The guy at this website is trying to tell me that pressurized is the way to go.  I played with it this morning, no tamping, and the shot was very thin with thin crema.

 

Michael B
 
> From: koenig.mike at gmail.com
> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 10:53:02 -0500
> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] was Espresso advice *HiJacked* now presurized portafilters
> 
> Michael,
> 
> One of my previous machines was a Saeco, which came with the pressurized
> portafilter, which at the time, had a valve that you could open or close by
> moving the handle left or right. It could make crema from whatever I put in
> there, old beans, sawdust, cat litter..etc..
> 
> At the time I wasn't yet roasting, but was using relatively fresh beans
> from a mail-order roaster. I would always get somewhat thin tasting shots
> using the pressurized device, and got a good amount of improvement when I
> ordered the non-pressurized one.
> 
> At the time I believed that good crema was the key to good espresso, and
> struggling to get good crema on my shots (as opposed to the sandy colored
> crema that evaporated quickly from the pressurized thingy) was what
> eventually led me to roasting at home.
> 
> --mike
> 
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:09 AM, michael brown <disracer at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Okay, after Sandra's comments about pressurized portafilters on Estro/Saeco
> > machines i had to do some research and this is what i found:
> > http://www.partsguru.com/SaecoRioProfi.html I had no idea that i had been
> > using a "pressurized portafilter" this whole time. I emailed the contact of
> > this website (before i knew of this page) and redirected me to the page i
> > just linked. It suggested not tamping at all! I thought, ridiculous! So i
> > tried it, and had surprising results. I need to play with it some more but
> > it's 11pm and i don't need to pull anymore shots. I have to be at work at
> > 8am.
> >
> > Anyone else have any experience with pressurized portafilters? He didn't
> > have an owners manual for my exact machine. I have an estro model 410, SIN
> > 007. But the link to the "226552008 Portafilter diagram Starbucks model
> > Via Venezia" diagram matches my portafilter exactly. Now
> > i'm all shook up, thinking i've been pulling shots WAY WRONG (at least as
> > how this machine was intended) the whole time i've had this machine [over a
> > year]. And by the way, i'd been able to pull what i've thought were decent
> > shots my way (dosing, knocking, tamp, knock, tamp, sometimes a third knock
> > and tamp).
> >
> > Michael B
> >
> >
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