[Homeroast] was Espresso advice *HiJacked* now presurized portafilters

Mike Koenig koenig.mike at gmail.com
Sat Jan 9 09:53:02 CST 2010


One of my previous machines was a Saeco,  which came with the pressurized
portafilter, which at the time, had a valve that you could open or close by
moving the handle left or right.  It could make crema from whatever I put in
there,  old beans, sawdust, cat litter..etc..

At the time I wasn't yet roasting,  but was using relatively fresh beans
from a mail-order roaster.  I would always get somewhat thin tasting shots
using the pressurized device,  and got a good amount of improvement when I
ordered the non-pressurized one.

At the time I believed that good crema was the key to good espresso, and
struggling to get good crema on my shots (as opposed to the sandy colored
crema that evaporated quickly from the pressurized thingy)  was what
eventually led me to roasting at home.


On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:09 AM, michael brown <disracer at msn.com> wrote:

> Okay, after Sandra's comments about pressurized portafilters on Estro/Saeco
> machines i had to do some research and this is what i found:
> http://www.partsguru.com/SaecoRioProfi.html  I had no idea that i had been
> using a "pressurized portafilter" this whole time.  I emailed the contact of
> this website (before i knew of this page) and redirected me to the page i
> just linked.  It suggested not tamping at all!  I thought, ridiculous!  So i
> tried it, and had surprising results.  I need to play with it some more but
> it's 11pm and i don't need to pull anymore shots.  I have to be at work at
> 8am.
> Anyone else have any experience with pressurized portafilters?  He didn't
> have an owners manual for my exact machine.  I have an estro model 410, SIN
> 007.  But the link to the "226552008 Portafilter diagram Starbucks model
>                  Via Venezia" diagram matches my portafilter exactly.  Now
> i'm all shook up, thinking i've been pulling shots WAY WRONG (at least as
> how this machine was intended) the whole time i've had this machine [over a
> year].  And by the way, i'd been able to pull what i've thought were decent
> shots my way (dosing, knocking, tamp, knock, tamp, sometimes a third knock
> and tamp).
> Michael B

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