[Homeroast] City? City +? Full City?

John A C Despres johndespres at gmail.com
Mon Feb 22 06:41:13 CST 2010


Grammar, ugh... Tom, I didn't mean *your* list is confusing. It's the 'out
there' part that's confusing; other forums, shops... One reason I like you
list is more degrees of roast. Kind of like using grams to measure instead
of ounces.

John

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Tom & Maria - Sweet Maria's Coffee <
sweetmarias at sweetmarias.com> wrote:

> Degree of roast is the never ending project. I wanted to take new pictures
> for the chart, now that I have better gear, and some ideas to correlate
> single bean macro images, groups of beans, and ground coffee with the SCAA
> discs. I have an agtron too, an older unit, and actually have never fired it
> up! (Found it used...) But that would be great for reference. It's "Project
> 8342.6" on my list. But an important one nonetheless.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>  Right on, Ivan. I agree the Sweet Maria's chart is by far the best one out
>> there. It's confusing at times, though. Another marker I use is when the
>> beans yellow, which is right about 225-230 degrees. The time at which they
>> yellow gives me an indication of how fast or slow my roast is progressing.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:36 PM, sci <scizen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>   There seems to be lots of semantic confusion even among the elite
>>>  roasters.I
>>>  noticed this as soon as I got into roasting. It is kinda like a debate
>>>  about
>>>  when a tomato is ripe.
>>>
>>>  Sweet Maria's paradigm is best for homeroasters simply because SM is the
>>> de
>>>  facto standard in the home roasting world. Most of us on this list are
>>> not
>>>  professional roasters. As for temperatures, we all know how hard it is
>>> to
>>>  get precise measurements of the actual bean temperature. I take relative
>>>  measurements of my machines and use them as guidelines. I have found
>>> that
>>>  cracks are my best main guide. Since I rarely roast beyond the beginning
>>>  stages of 2nd crack, I just wait for 1st crack and then use time, smell,
>>>  color, and relative temp. from there. Do I get rigorously consistent
>>>  roasts?
>>>  No.
>>>  As a homeroaster I relish and enjoy the slight variations in roasts. I
>>>  don't
>>>  have to have precise consistency between roasts because I don't have
>>>  customers who want extreme consistency. Consistency can get boring in
>>>  things
>>>  that are supposed to be fun. Ditto for my espresso shots.
>>>
>>>  Ivan
>>>
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>>> that
>>>  do
>>>  not have it."
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