[Homeroast] City? City +? Full City?

John A C Despres johndespres at gmail.com
Sun Feb 21 16:47:29 CST 2010

Right on, Ivan. I agree the Sweet Maria's chart is by far the best one out
there. It's confusing at times, though. Another marker I use is when the
beans yellow, which is right about 225-230 degrees. The time at which they
yellow gives me an indication of how fast or slow my roast is progressing.


On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:36 PM, sci <scizen at gmail.com> wrote:

> There seems to be lots of semantic confusion even among the elite
> roasters.I
> noticed this as soon as I got into roasting. It is kinda like a debate
> about
> when a tomato is ripe.
> Sweet Maria's paradigm is best for homeroasters simply because SM is the de
> facto standard in the home roasting world. Most of us on this list are not
> professional roasters. As for temperatures, we all know how hard it is to
> get precise measurements of the actual bean temperature. I take relative
> measurements of my machines and use them as guidelines. I have found that
> cracks are my best main guide. Since I rarely roast beyond the beginning
> stages of 2nd crack, I just wait for 1st crack and then use time, smell,
> color, and relative temp. from there. Do I get rigorously consistent
> roasts?
> No.
> As a homeroaster I relish and enjoy the slight variations in roasts. I
> don't
> have to have precise consistency between roasts because I don't have
> customers who want extreme consistency. Consistency can get boring in
> things
> that are supposed to be fun. Ditto for my espresso shots.
> Ivan
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