[Homeroast] Quest M3 Arrives, Is it worth it?

Robert Yoder robotyonder at hotmail.com
Thu Dec 9 22:37:30 CST 2010


Thanks!
 
I wonder if we could get Tom (in his alter ego at Shrub) to give a Quest Workshop.
 
all the best, and,
 
Happy Roasting,
 
robert yoder
 

 
> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 22:19:27 -0600
> From: hankperkins at gmail.com
> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Quest M3 Arrives, Is it worth it?
> 
> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 9:50 PM, Robert Yoder <robotyonder at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hank,
> >
> > I'm interested in the smoke output you're seeing.  Do you go for 2d Crack, normally, or not?  If you avoid 2d, what sort of smoke do you experience?  Would a pretty strong range hood be enough for occasional indoor roasts?
> 
> I am going right up to C2. I think your range hood should be able to
> handle the smoke. I would definitely try it. If I didn't have a
> workshop where I roast I would try it inside. Early on I did this
> before we installed the JennAir and it smoked up the house. I am now
> banned from the kitchen during my "experiments".
> >
> > Is the Quest something that one could carry from a shelf to a roasting area without requiring medical attention?
> 
> About 20 Pounds, it isn't awkward to carry. For me it would be no big deal.
> >
> > I understand that the Quest offers control unlike other Prosumer Roasters, but I wonder how you know how and when to alter fan speed, heater power, etc.  While recognizing that this is really the essence of the Roaster's Craft, I'm asking about basic guidelines.  Do you adjust based on Bean Temperature information (If so, where is the probe and how'd you get it there) as it changes with time (temperature ramp or some such (I think Ed Bourgeois calls it his Speedometer)).  What are you using for an Environment Temperature Probe (I mean where and what kind)?  I saved your previous post about the Omega purchase, but it sounds as if you haven't yet made those "improvements", yet are still sailing along well without them.
> 
> The temp controls are on order. As for how to know, I play and roast
> often and nothing I have roaster has been tossed. I really would like
> to take a roasting class. For stuff like this my experience is that
> that kind of classroom experience would be very positive.
> 
> I travel quite a bit and plan to flip the light switch at the office
> on the 20th for the rest of the year. I expect to have the probes and
> the Omega NLT the 23rd. I should be able to provide better insight at
> that time.
> >
> > Thanks again for your reports!
> >
> >
> > Happy Roasting,
> >
> > robert yoder
> >> From: hankperkins at gmail.com
> >> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 17:29:33 -0600
> >> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Quest M3 Arrives, Is it worth it?
> >>
> >> Not that I could see or smell and I did have a 1/2 lb in the machine. As a neophyte I am unsure why you would want to start that hot with a 125g load. There is a relationship between amps, fan speed, and thermal loading from the size of the roast load should allow you to bring the temps up as fas as you want.
> >>
> >> I am flat out amazed how well I can make this baby dance already. Between amp and fan speed this roaster you can do most anything. Want to move the temp up fast set the amps on 10 and the fan on 2-3 ( with a full load). Want to bring the temp down cut the amps and crank up the fan. Now, I don't advocate doing this indiscriminately but you can get this machine to change temps faster than I expected but when running the amps wide open you should watch your temps and adjust the fan up as the temps climb or you risk burning out the elements.
> >>
> >> At thus point I doubt I will be plugging the Behmor in again but will hold off until after the holidays to decide if I will sell the Behmor or not. I have just lost interest in using the Behmor.
> >>
> >> On Dec 9, 2010, at 4:35 PM, ricky carter <rickylc99 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hank,
> >> >
> >> > Did you get any scorching or uneven roast with those settings? I have had
> >> > some problems with this on high heat settings even with high fan. maybe I
> >> > need to increase the load size to 1/2 lb. :)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:56 PM, Hank Perkins <hankperkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I did a sample run tonight with 8oz for kicks and giggles. I dumped the
> >> >> coffee at 225c with the amps set at 10 and the fan set down at 3. I hit C1
> >> >> at about 9 minutes. WOW. This thing is a beast. To think I can do 8oz roasts
> >> >> back to back in about 12 minutes.
> >> >>
> >> >> More to come.
> >> >>
> >> >> BTW the Jimma from the other night is developing wonderfully.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Dec 8, 2010, at 2:53 PM, Robert Yoder <robotyonder at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi Ginny,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Congratulations on your new Quest Roaster and Commiserations on your
> >> >> injuries!
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Any chance your sister could use a new (old) brother?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Speedy Mending, and,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Happy roasting,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> robert yoder
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:42:07 -0700
> >> >>>> From: pchforever at gmail.com
> >> >>>> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Quest M3 Arrives, Is it worth it?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Hi Guys:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Nice to hear some good stuff about the Quest 3M.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Love to look at mine, very cool machine. Broke my wrist when it came so
> >> >>>> cannot turn the dials while roasting or handle much of anything.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Good old Hot Top has been providing me with my daily Java.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Cannot wait to try out my Quest; hopefully by net week.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> My choice was to be able to have the advantage of a total manual
> >> >> machine.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Mike I will see if my sister will send one up to you!!
> >> >>>> love ya all,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> ginny
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Edward Bourgeois <
> >> >> edbourgeois at gmail.com>wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> It's kinda like a 21st century type Olympia Cremina. Small company,
> >> >>>>> simple, old school, well designed and built, pro worthy. Manual! No
> >> >>>>> reason why a Quest wouldn't be able to last a long time. Compatible
> >> >>>>> with the concepts used with bigger drum roasters. The price is at a
> >> >>>>> good price point for this quality/level of a roaster. Similar to the
> >> >>>>> price range of better prosumer espresso machines. This might create a
> >> >>>>> chance to make something somewhat from here. At some point there will
> >> >>>>> be used ones available and serviceable and hopefully some new similar
> >> >>>>> designs. A Quest type machine seems like a nice option for many pro
> >> >>>>> roasters too.
> >> >>>>> We gotta get Ben working on some roaster drawings.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:26 PM, miKe mcKoffee <mcKona at comcast.net>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>>>> Scott, if it was me I'd go for a QM3. For the price of a commercial
> >> >>>>> sample
> >> >>>>>> roaster you could have more than one QM3, and QM3 would afford more
> >> >>>>>> versatility (profiling control capability) versus traditional barrel
> >> >>>>> sample
> >> >>>>>> roaster. Unless you're talking about something like a USRC .5k as a
> >> >>>>> sample
> >> >>>>>> roaster.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I'm still using a CCR HotTop as my sample roaster but would rather
> >> >> have
> >> >>>>> two
> >> >>>>>> QM3 for what I paid for the CCR HT...or one QM3 and some halogens for
> >> >>>>> vac:)
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Not that the CCR HT isn't pretty nifty, but I believe from all I've
> >> >> read
> >> >>>>> and
> >> >>>>>> what I understand of how the the QM3 works that it's capable of
> >> >> superior
> >> >>>>>> roasts, close to if not on par with my USRC. QM3 fully manual of
> >> >> course
> >> >>>>> so
> >> >>>>>> doesn't have the automation advantage of the CCR HT, but I could live
> >> >>>>> with
> >> >>>>>> that.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Slave to the Bean miKe mcKoffee
> >> >>>>>> www.CompassCoffeeRoasting.com
> >> >>>>>> URL to Rosto mods, FrankenFormer, some recipes etc:
> >> >>>>>> http://www.mckoffee.com/
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Ultimately the quest for Koffee Nirvana is a solitary path. To know I
> >> >>>>> must
> >> >>>>>> first not know. And in knowing know I know not. Each Personal
> >> >>>>> enlightenment
> >> >>>>>> found exploring the many divergent foot steps of Those who have gone
> >> >>>>> before.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> Sweet Maria's List - Searchable Archives
> >> >>>>>> http://themeyers.org/HomeRoast/
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>>>>> From: homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> >> >>>>>>> [mailto:homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com] On
> >> >>>>>>> Behalf Of Scott Miller
> >> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 5:29 PM
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Hank,
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Best of luck with the new roaster. I'm sitting on the fence trying to
> >> >>>>>>> figure out if I should take the plunge and get an expensive, though
> >> >>>>>>> certainly useful sample roaster or opt for the Quest... Look forward
> >> >>>>>>> to hearing your experience with different beans and how the side by
> >> >>>>>>> side comparisons work out.
> >> >>>>>>> By trying some different beans and processing methods of the beans,
> >> >>>>>>> you should be able to really see how a solid drum makes a difference,
> >> >>>>>>> IMO.
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> What is the rate of rotation of the drum?
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> cheers,
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>> Scott
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
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> >> >>>>>
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