[Homeroast] Turning Bottomless Portafilter
pchforever at gmail.com
Mon Aug 30 20:54:54 CDT 2010
to botom or not.
I usually do not agree with my friend MiKe but I must say that tasting is
far better then seeing and I am not sure
that I do not see enough with my bottoms on!!
That aid I may try it for the hell of it to see if the coffee really tastes
different but my guess it that is does not.
Looks way cool, lots of jazz factor but does it really taste better?
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Bill S. <wsmailmagnet at gmail.com> wrote:
> Please forgive my misspelling..
> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Bill S. <wsmailmagnet at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks KiKe, as always,
> > You are the "nekkid portafilter" of this blog--
> > Nothing comes between you and trying to get the best coffee into the cup;
> > You call the shot exactly as it is;
> > You help us make better coffee, which is one of the things in life which
> > makes us smile.
> > BillS.
> > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:40 PM, miKe mcKoffee <mcKona at comcast.net>
> >> Been involved in and read discussions of shot perceived difference, if
> >> any,
> >> between nekkid and spouted for close to a decade. Many of these
> >> discussions
> >> with some of the most acute palates in the world often using the most
> >> cutting edge equipment in the world like Roburs or Versalab grinders and
> >> GS3s or Speetsters etc. (And everthing on down.) Don't recall
> >> of
> >> the resulting cup ever being an issue. Usually biggest perceived
> >> difference
> >> is in the "unstirred" straight shot with spouted being creamier texture
> >> versus nekkid. Stir the shot and difference bye-bye.
> >> If someone thinks they can pull a couple or few shots a day and be even
> >> close to 90% consistent without ongoing shot feedback IMO quite
> >> delusional.
> >> Indeed quite a bit of can be gleened watching spouted flow (with years
> >> experience not just an afternoon of instruction), but not as much or as
> >> rapidly as pulling nekkid. It ain't primarily about showy shots, it's
> >> about
> >> quality shot production.
> >> And a HUGE advantage of pulling nekkid in a busy environment is the PF
> >> doesn't need periodic cleaning at all, zero, zip. No old coffee clinging
> >> to
> >> spout and crevices degrading shots. Baskets easily kept clean rinsing
> >> rinsing both sides same time post shot flushing group after each shot
> >> wiping dry. During the day periodic water backflushes and basket steam
> >> cleaning all that's needed to keep it clean and shot quality high.
> >> The biggest complaint I hear from some people using nekkid PF's is mess
> >> from
> >> frequent spraying. If that's a constant problem PF build technique is
> >> faulty
> >> plan and simple. Pulling with spout will merely mask it not correct it.
> >> miKe
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> >> > [mailto:homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com] On
> >> > Behalf Of Joseph Robertson
> >> > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 7:56 AM
> >> >
> >> > miKe,
> >> > This question is to you. I know you like pf's as much as I do
> >> > but I have
> >> > never heard you chime in when we get into pf pro and con's of these
> >> > discussions regarding the temp differential between bottom on
> >> > and bottom off
> >> > as Dennis just brought up.
> >> > Can we talk you out of another 2 cents on this. I know you
> >> > have probably
> >> > covered it before but for the sake of us old dogs with old
> >> > memory cells?
> >> > JoeR
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