[Homeroast] Turning Bottomless Portafilter

Bill S. wsmailmagnet at gmail.com
Mon Aug 30 12:16:02 CDT 2010

Thanks KiKe, as always,

You are the "nekkid portafilter" of this blog--

Nothing comes between you and trying to get the best coffee into the cup;
You call the shot exactly as it is;
You help us make better coffee, which is one of the things in life which
makes us smile.


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:40 PM, miKe mcKoffee <mcKona at comcast.net> wrote:

> Been involved in and read discussions of shot perceived difference, if any,
> between nekkid and spouted for close to a decade. Many of these discussions
> with some of the most acute palates in the world often using the most
> cutting edge equipment in the world like Roburs or Versalab grinders and
> GS3s or Speetsters etc. (And everthing on down.) Don't recall temperature
> of
> the resulting cup ever being an issue. Usually biggest perceived difference
> is in the "unstirred" straight shot with spouted being creamier texture
> versus nekkid. Stir the shot and difference bye-bye.
> If someone thinks they can pull a couple or few shots a day and be even
> close to 90% consistent without ongoing shot feedback IMO quite delusional.
> Indeed quite a bit of can be gleened watching spouted flow (with years of
> experience not just an afternoon of instruction), but not as much or as
> rapidly as pulling nekkid. It ain't primarily about showy shots, it's about
> quality shot production.
> And a HUGE advantage of pulling nekkid in a busy environment is the PF
> doesn't need periodic cleaning at all, zero, zip. No old coffee clinging to
> spout and crevices degrading shots. Baskets easily kept clean rinsing just
> rinsing both sides same time post shot flushing group after each shot and
> wiping dry. During the day periodic water backflushes and basket steam
> cleaning all that's needed to keep it clean and shot quality high.
> The biggest complaint I hear from some people using nekkid PF's is mess
> from
> frequent spraying. If that's a constant problem PF build technique is
> faulty
> plan and simple. Pulling with spout will merely mask it not correct it.
> miKe
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> > [mailto:homeroast-bounces at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com] On
> > Behalf Of Joseph Robertson
> > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 7:56 AM
> >
> > miKe,
> > This question is to you. I know you like pf's as much as I do
> > but I have
> > never heard you chime in when we get into pf pro and con's of  these
> > discussions regarding the temp differential between bottom on
> > and bottom off
> > as Dennis just brought up.
> > Can we talk you out of another 2 cents on this. I know you
> > have probably
> > covered it before but for the sake of us old dogs with old
> > memory cells?
> > JoeR
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