[Homeroast] Making Espresso

michael brown disracer at msn.com
Mon Aug 30 09:48:27 CDT 2010


I've enjoyed following this Scott.  Sounds a lot like my espresso quest that the list helped me with a while back.Keep exploring and tweeking (ha, no pun intended) and be sure to report your findings, we love this kinda stuff.
Michael B
b'ham, AL

> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:12:53 -0500
> From: hankperkins at gmail.com
> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> Subject: Re: [Homeroast] Making Espresso
> 
> Made the wife a Latte.  She stated that the coffee shop latte has 10%
> of the flavor that mine did.  I told her the espresso should get
> better.  She was amazed.
> 
> THANKS THANKS THANKS
> 
> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Hank Perkins <hankperkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Scott,
> >
> > Sounds like I have the time close.  I do have the 4-5 second dely but
> > it is completeing @ 22-24 seconds and that is me counting not using a
> > clock so it is more than likely a bit quicker.
> >
> > I will try again.
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Scott Miller <peechdogg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> How long after you hit the brew switch before the elixir starts to
> >> drip is another thing to consider. You definitely want to see what
> >> happens once the Liquid Amber has rested 3-4 days, and it may be that
> >> 2 year beans are a bit long in the tooth.
> >>
> >> In general, I recall that with my Gaggia Coffee DeLuxe, the best shots
> >> came when there was about a 4-5 second delay before espresso started
> >> to drip. With a properly dosed, distributed & tamped double (14 g)
> >> basket I would get about 1.75 oz shot before blonding happened.
> >> Including the 4-5 second delay, total brew time was in the 26-30
> >> second brew time.
> >>
> >> Keep working at it! The Gaggia can produce decent espresso for lattes
> >> and do a good job texturing the milk.
> >>
> >> The SM espresso pages are good starting resource, too:
> >> http://www.sweetmarias.com/espresso-general1.php
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Hank Perkins <hankperkins at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Both coffees are roasted to full city.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:56 AM, michael brown <disracer at msn.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The only thing i didn't see you mention was descaling the machine.  I'm always amazed at the difference it makes.  I don't realize the subtle changes that happen between descaling until i descale.Oh and putting a package of Grindz through the grinder.  Sounds like you know a lot about the technique and science behind the pulls.If you've already done this, tell us about the roast.How old was the Liquid Amber before your roasted it?Do you remember much about the profile?How long did you rest it?I started an espresso "quest" a couple of years ago, asked similar questions here on the list and kept tweeking until i was pulling great shots at home.Glad i never gave up!
> >>>> Michael Bb'ham, AL
> >>>>
> >>>>> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 07:34:02 -0500
> >>>>> From: hankperkins at gmail.com
> >>>>> To: homeroast at lists.sweetmariascoffee.com
> >>>>> Subject: [Homeroast] Making Espresso
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have been roasting coffee for 10 years or so and don't post here
> >>>>> often.  I am a dedicated drip coffee guy.  But my wife loves her
> >>>>> Lattes.  4-5 years ago I purchased a Gaggia Classic.   I played with
> >>>>> the machine for a few weeks but never got my shots where they needed
> >>>>> to be.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yesterday the wife asked if I would set it back up and start making
> >>>>> her Lattes (which she has been buying at the local coffee shop).  I
> >>>>> roasted I pound of Liquid Amber that was still in the bottom of the
> >>>>> bean bin.  I spent most of the afternoon making this nasty crap that I
> >>>>> drank about 4 shots.  My Rocky grinder is set to 10.  A double shot
> >>>>> has been weighed out to 14 grams.  The machine is preheated and a
> >>>>> blank or two is run.  My double shots are taking 22-27 seconds.  I ran
> >>>>> both the Liquid Amber and my Sumatra Drip.  Little difference.  the
> >>>>> crema is very light in color and thin.  The coffee is fine for lattee
> >>>>> but I like and espresso but the taste is dominated by thin and bitter
> >>>>> overtones.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Please Help Me!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hank
> >>>>>
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