[Homeroast] Monday Morning Cup

Doug Hoople doughoople at gmail.com
Thu Aug 26 01:44:32 CDT 2010

"Until things change, do as Rich suggests and Big Coffee does- sift out the

RayO, this is the first I think I've seen you actually and sincerely
recommending something that big coffee does! :)

But seriously, RayO, what are you trying to fix? The problem's under
control. The fix is in.

There's not really a problem here left to solve. Given a "good" grinder, the
simple application of the terminal heat burst should prevent all problems
with stalling and drawdown delays in the Yama 5- and 8-cup stovetop vacuum
brewers when using a Cory rod. Period. A "good" grinder, in this case, is
the Baratza Virtuoso, which is the grinder I used to demonstrate the
efficacy of the technique in question.

Maybe a "lousy" grinder will still prevent the heat burst from working.
Chris' experience points in that direction. Maybe the Cona rod instead of
the Cory might complicate things, as Cherry's experience might indicate (the
jury's still out on Cherry's situation).

But, from my perspective, there's no need for a "great-grinder upgrade" to
fix vacpot drawdown problems. I recommend a top-quality grinder for the
purposes of improving the flavor in the cup.

I upgraded to the Baratza Vario, and my cups improved markedly. But I didn't
need that upgrade to get the glass rod vacpot to behave. That problem was
already sussed.

So what problem are you actually trying to fix here, RayO?


On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 6:18 PM, <raymanowen at gmail.com> wrote:

> <...the Mazzer Mini nor the Cimbali Max Hybrid are "great" grinders>
> They are great grinders in Name only.
>   - The acid test would be to set up the worst, most problematic coffee
>   brewing event-
>   - First execute the entire brew cycle with water only, no coffee
>   whatsoever-
>   - 2nd, repeat with the correct quantity of roasted, unground coffee
>   beans-
> Did you experience any stalls, so far? Not much coffee either, Huh?
> To advance from no stalls but no coffee you may need to reduce the
> particulate size of the roasted coffee sample. I suggest the machine to use
> between Roasting and Brewing might have the moniker: GRINDER. Sometimes
> called a GRINDER. Or you could use a GRINDER.
> Don't attempt to use one of the glittering amusements made for little Rollo
> before his pre-school graduation. They look like, but don't function like
> real cars, tractors, grinders...
> If we still try to use one of Rollo's toys as adults, the mental health
> bill
> hasn't been proposed, and the asylum hasn't been built that will do any
> good. The hope is caseless.
> Until things change, do as Rich suggests and Big Coffee does- sift out the
> fines. I might suggest an alternative hobby- shooting and reloading. You'll
> really get a Bang out of it, but it's not for everyone. Neither is driving,
> but almost everyone does it anyway.
> Cheers, Mabuhay -RayO, aka Opa!
> Got Grinder?
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