[Homeroast] Roasting smoke and birds

Yakster yakster at gmail.com
Wed Dec 23 11:03:31 CST 2009


Good reply, Starfinder.  Might be something to post on the Forum for
posterity/future reference:  http://www.sweetmariascoffee.com/forum.

-Chris

On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Starfinder Stanley <coffee at starf.org>wrote:

> Allon, the short answer is that there is no need to worry about the coffee
> smoke and your conure.  I'm visiting the inlaws in Key West right now, and
> their bird's cage sits in the kitchen, literally next to the Wolf range.
> They roast in the kitchen on a (gimpy!) IRoast2 with no venting beyond
> switching on the oven hood.  Haven't killed the little vampire yet.  <grin>
>
> Birds do have ultra-efficient respiratory systems (important to maintaining
> consciousness while vigorously exercising at high altitudes!) so they are a
> lot more sensitive to toxins, and it is definitely a good idea to avoid
> fumes and any sorts of toxins.  Regular kitchen smoke is not a problem.
>  One
> thing that is very important to avoid is overheating nonstick teflon (PTFE)
> coated cookware, because if heated past about 450 F teflon releases toxic
> fumes which WILL cause a lot of problems for birds.  Regular cooking on
> teflon is not an issue, but if you put a pan on the stove and forget about
> it, you could be in trouble.  I was just visiting a friend yesterday who
> breeds dozens of species of birds, monkeys, and other exotic critters and
> who cooks on teflon in his bird-filled home without batting an eye ---but
> he's also a bit OCD, and would never, ever forget about a pan on the stove
> for an instant).  Some people with birds ban teflon from their homes, which
> might be overkill but protects the birds from mistakes.  I banned teflon
> from my home because I think it leeches toxins into the food, but that's
> another story.  Regardless, IMO you can't beat a good seasoned cast iron or
> ceramic coated pan like Le Cruset, and if you can't handle the forearm
> workout of cooking with the heavy kitchenware, there are some great new
> ceramic-on-lightweight-metal non-sticks like the Greenpan with a purely
> ceramic 'thermalon' coating that give you pretty good nonstick without the
> toxic chemicals.  Don't be mislead by scanpan or swiss diamond pans; both
> are teflon with adjunctive technologies that protect the PTFE nonstick
> coating from severe scratching, which allows you to use metal tools in the
> pans but does nothing to reduce the toxic aspects of the nonstick coating.
>
> Bottom line, your coffee roasting ventilation system sounds completely
> adequate, and I'd be more concerned about what else is in the kitchen vis a
> vis teflon and cleaning chemicals....
>
> Enjoy the conure, they're fun little birds when they're hand reared and
> well
> socialized!
>
> On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Joseph Robertson <theotherjo at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Allon,
> > Your taking extra care as it is. If the birdy is affected his behavior
> will
> > show it. Vent like your doing and all should be ok.
> > "watch the birdy" <];^)
> > JoeR
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Allon Stern <allon at radioactive.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Okay this may be largely directed at Starfinder, but I welcome anyone
> > with
> > > experience to chime in :)
> > >
> > > We're getting a pet bird (Sun Conure). I know birds have very sensitive
> > > respiratory systems, and I wanted to see if anyone had any suggestions
> or
> > > thoughts on roasting with a bird in the house. I do much of my roasting
> > > outside with a heat gun, but some indoors with my modded IR2 and just
> > > recently using the Z&D inside a box with my vent sucking roasting smoke
> > to
> > > the outside; I've considered a behmor, and may try it with a similar
> > set-up.
> > >
> > > I just hate the idea of anything happening to our new birdy. Am I just
> > > being overly cautious, or is there a real risk?
> > >
> > > current iRoast setup: http://www.radioactive.org/pix/roaster/
> > > Tiki bird: http://www.radioactive.org/pix/tiki.jpg
> > >
> > > -
> > > allon
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